Spoon,

First of all, I agree completely with your arguments.

What I'm trying to point out are certain arguments for 3betting other hands instead of Axs. I acknowledge that I am unsure how to weigh all the arguments and make the right conclusions. Also my arguments aren't 100% true always, but in some there's a point.
This is all a result of me trying to examine pros and cons of 3betting Axs a while back and comparing it to other hands.
(at my most common table dynamics)


Fwiw, I far from meant 3betting random junk, I specifically meant Qxs (maybe Jxs) as a 3bet hand, because:
- Qxs has a blokker to QQ and AQ (not AK, so yes Axs blocks a bit better)
- Qxs has a change of hitting a Q against villains JJ- which is a big part of villains calling range. Axs has that as well, but assuming QQ+ 4bets, flopping TP makes the best hand against that calling range with either Ax or Qx.
(QQ doesn't 4bet always, I play 6max though so calling ranges are usually wider then the QQ+/AK and QQ is at least sometimes a 4bet)

- when I hit my Q with Qx I'll probably get more value from villain then when I hit an A with Qx. (I'm assuming villain continues more often with JJ- on a Q high flop, then JJ- on a A high board)

- The thing about rather getting 4bet was described and interpreted a bit wrong, and I'm not even sure it's a valid point. It's difficult to point out what I mean though, I'll give it another try:

When I my 3bet gets called and my cbet get's called, I'm paying a better hand more then when I 3bet/fold.
Assuming AA and AK 4bet, taking combinations out of his 4bet range makes his calling range relatively larger, which means I'm, relatively seeing, paying off better hands postflop more often.
If I take more hands out of villain calling range, I'm paying postflop less, but folding to a 4bet more, which is cheaper.

Also, with villains at my stakes sometimes calling AJs/ATs and playing fit-or-fold, it's good for me to have the A combo's in his range, because I'll win more flops we both miss.
(again I agree this one could be far-fetched)

- To end; The assumption I made is that very generally people fold on an A high board when they don't have an A. So until they adjust, I don't mind repping it way more often then I have it. Not having the A means the board will come A high more often, which means a profitable bluffing situation comes up more often.