Questions About Big Slick On A Missed Flop

Good to see you posting a hand,

I think this is an easy fold. We'll see what others say though.

When you post a hand, and when you play a hand, you need to assess the villains range in more detail. By doing so forum members can better check your thinking. I don't mean to say you haven't thought about it because I see you suggest maybe over pair and why you think it's a strange line for a J. Its good to name the hands though. So you have a clearer idea of your villains actions.

Your guy raises from UTG+1 so and has fairly tight stats, not super nit though. His raising range is probably something like 99+ AQ+. You have seen him fold to 3bets so his calling range for your raise is JJ+ AK maybe. Also, while a flat is posssible we can assume this player would have 4bet AA/KK.

So our range is JJ, QQ, AK.

Betting on this flop is unlikely without a hand as your range is strong. Your most likely going to raise overpaira or perhaps flat call JJ and villain is going to be behind your range and out of position. So QQ JJ and perhaps AJ though we don't think he has that based on our flop read. .

It would be wrong of you to call with AK, and a raise to less than 3$ would also suck.so you've got to risk more than half a buy in that hell fold quads trips or overpair. A tighty with AK is t betting into the in position preflop 3bet. So you need a solid read on him being weaktight enough to fold an over pair. And confidence in him not betting a j ever.

Originally Posted by scott_owen

When you post a hand, and when you play a hand, you need to assess the villains range in more detail. By doing so forum members can better check your thinking. I don't mean to say you haven't thought about it because I see you suggest maybe over pair and why you think it's a strange line for a J. Its good to name the hands though. So you have a clearer idea of your villains actions.

Your guy raises from UTG+1 so and has fairly tight stats, not super nit though. His raising range is probably something like 99+ AQ+. You have seen him fold to 3bets so his calling range for your raise is JJ+ AK maybe. Also, while a flat is posssible we can assume this player would have 4bet AA/KK.

So our range is JJ, QQ, AK.

This was extremely helpful. So thank-you. I am trying to assess ranges, something which I wasn't doing well in the past, and seeing the process spelled out like this really helps. I think the process may have clicked together a bit more for me now.

Originally Posted by derekeverett

This was extremely helpful. So thank-you. I am trying to assess ranges, something which I wasn't doing well in the past, and seeing the process spelled out like this really helps. I think the process may have clicked together a bit more for me now.

no worries, I don't claim to be good at myself, its not easy to learn as there are so many variables. Things change dramatically with differences in player tendencies. This hand was an easy one because we see 2 actions preflop from a player who's style can be pigeon holed pretty easily.