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  1. #1

    Default QQ sure is owning me

    Before replying 'standard' is my raise sizing a little bit too big? Even with top pair I think i may be putting a bit too much pressure on my opponent

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    SB ($81.15)
    BB ($49.75)
    Hero (UTG) ($50)
    MP1 ($10)
    MP2 ($54.20)
    CO ($50.50)
    Button ($56.65)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero bets $2, 3 folds, Button calls $2, 2 folds

    Flop: ($4.75) 2, 9, J (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50

    Turn: ($11.75) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $9, Button calls $9

    River: ($29.75) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $20, Button raises to $42.15 (All-In), Hero calls $15.50 (All-In)

    Total pot: $100.75 | Rake: $3
  2. #2

    Default Re: QQ sure is owning me

    Any reads?
  3. #3
    4bb raise from UTG is 100% standard. It's never too big.

    As for post flop play, check turn, you're building a pot OP vs an opp that called you down on a dry board.
  4. #4
    His raise on the river worries me a bit but I don't really see him calling you down with a set, low pp or A3 etc. Your bet sizing seems pretty standard to me.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndline.4thstreet
    I don't really see him calling you down with a set
    why not? Flat PF, call flop, no signs of hero slowing down on safe turn = call, ship river.
  6. #6
    I think your bet sizing might be too big if you want to get a jack (or worse) to come along for the ride.

    I make it like $8 on the turn which sets up for a nice $15 on the river
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    Brosky, you gotta post in the big boy forum now you're at da 50NL!
  8. #8
    PF Bet Sizing - Its up to you.It has to be the same for every opener(you dont want to raise $2 with QQ and $1.50 for 88)

    Flop Bet Sizing is standard.Turn-ill maybe bet $7.50-$8.50.I still think its fine.

    River Bet is pretty big.You are close to PSB.Then again,i have trouble on river bet.

    You gotta define some ranges here even though you have no reads on villain.If you beat a majority of the ranges,you should bet the river or maybe induce a bluff from villain.C/R on an unknown villain is pretty wicked.C/C would be nice sometimes.

    What does he continue here on the flop?
    What does he continue here on the turn?
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by tyrn
    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndline.4thstreet
    I don't really see him calling you down with a set
    why not? Flat PF, call flop, no signs of hero slowing down on safe turn = call, ship river.

    ^^This^^ I'd be worried about a set if he flat calls the flop and turn on a dry board when your raising the way you are. Theres no point on reraising you on the turn because he's thinking your commiting yourself on the turn. He knows if you bet hes gonna raise you all in and if you check the river he's gonna go to value town.
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    PRONLHOLDEMs covers this particular problem very well.

    The suggest that Overpairs have Triskadiekaphobia. (Fear of the number 13)

    What this means is that if you can multiply the Pot by 13 and get to about your stack size, top pair is a bad hand to have, and you should manipulate the pot to get away from that number.

    Why is it so bad? Very rarely does single pair want to play for stacks, and you get put to a stupid hard decision on the river, the reason is, you make 1 PSB your opponent calls, there are 3 PSB's in the pot. Then you make another PSB on the turn, and there are now 9 of the original 3 PSB's in the pot.
    If you check, your opponent can make a pot-sized shove on the river that puts you to a tough call. 9 psb's + 9 psb's + 9 psb's =27, your share of that is 13.5

    How do you circumnavigate this? Make your decisions easier. Either get more money in the pot earlier, so that there are less than 13 PSB's in the pot on the flop in your stack. (Probably bad because your opponent will be far less likely to call)

    OR

    You can check one of the streets or bet far/more or far/less in order to
    create a more favorable scenario.
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