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  1. #1

    Default QQ facing flop shove (5NL 6 Max)

    This one got no reads, villain sat down with $2 about 3 hands ago.


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($6.83)
    SB ($2.63)
    BB ($10.39)
    Hero (UTG) ($4.53)
    MP ($2.31)
    CO ($7.71)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, 4 folds

    Flop: ($0.47) J, 8, A (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.35, MP raises to $2.11 (All-In), Hero folds

    Total pot: $1.17 | Rake: $0.05

    If I'm giving him a pretty tight range - all rag aces, perhaps with a few jacks thrown in.

    Board: Jh 8h As
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 22.470% 22.37% 00.10% 38527 179.00 { QcQs }
    Hand 1: 77.530% 77.43% 00.10% 133375 179.00 { KK+, JJ, A2s+, KJs, QJs, JTs, A2o+, KJo, QJo, JTo }

    If we include the Hearts into his range - not sure if I'm working stove right something I've got to work on. It would look something like the below

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 54.897% 54.67% 00.23% 210541 872.00 { QcQs }
    Hand 1: 45.103% 44.88% 00.23% 172825 872.00 { JJ+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, KJo, QJo, JTo }

    Mind I doubt even the donk is calling with 32s so just tightening his pre flop range, to more SCs and Double Gappers - this range looks more likely.


    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 35.771% 35.47% 00.30% 80767 683.00 { QcQs }
    Hand 1: 64.229% 63.93% 00.30% 145567 683.00 { JJ+, A2s+, K9s+, QTs+, J9s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A2o+, KJo, QJo, JTo }

    So I guess is it a call?
    $1.76 to win $4.69 - still not sure.
    37.5% but I'm not sure if I'm working it out right or if the range is even close.
  2. #2
    I guess fold.

    And there's something wrong with your ranges.
  3. #3
    Just the Ace Rags?
  4. #4
    Guest
    you're not stoving it right
    you're having him shove Kc2c

    this is how you include hearts in his range:

    181,170 games 0.031 secs 5,844,193 games/sec

    Board: Jh 8h As
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 22.906% 22.83% 00.07% 41363 135.50 { QcQs }
    Hand 1: 77.094% 77.02% 00.07% 139536 135.50 { AA, JJ, 88, A2s+, KhQh, KhTh, Kh9h, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, Kh2h, QhTh, Qh9h, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Th9h, Th7h, T6s, 9h7h, 9h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 7h4h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h, 5h3h, 4h3h, A2o+, T9o }
  5. #5
    Ah what a dumbass, cheers!
  6. #6
    Yeah, you gotta fold. That Ace on the board makes it very risky. I personally only think you should have led out with a 1/2 the pot sized bet ($0.20).
  7. #7
    I'm not scared of the ace though golfguy, if I bet small which I very rarely do at this level it gives the impression I don't have the ace. If I have A10 say I bet the same, looking back it's a pretty standard fold.

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