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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

UTG+2: $1.93 (38.6 bb)
MP1: $5.19 (103.8 bb)
Hero (MP2): $12.70 (254 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $19.21 (384.2 bb)
BTN: $3.46 (69.2 bb)
SB: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
BB: $6.43 (128.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, MP3 folds, CO raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.35, Hero raises to $1.45, CO raises to $19.21, BB folds, Hero ??

V=34/15 9.43b, 177hands

Very simple question here, do you weight his range more towards hands like TT, JJ, AK and discount KK+ somewhat because of his shove? You would expect KK+ to raise smaller and not just jam most of the time? Or am I just leveling myself?

Given stack depth i'd fold. You really wanna flip for ~250bb that's if he has AK if he has KK+ your crushed. I think we can eliminate JJ given stack depth.

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Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 114253440 5540034.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 172607388 5540034.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

I'd fold.

72 nails it
fold

My personal point of view is I am never happy to get it all-in pre with QQ. Hardly anyone shoves with TT/JJ and the absolute very best you can be up against is AK, which is a coin flip.

Originally Posted by Cobra_1878

My personal point of view is I am never happy to get it all-in pre with QQ. Hardly anyone shoves with TT/JJ and the absolute very best you can be up against is AK, which is a coin flip.

What if you open for 3x in the CO at 6max and a 40bb short stacker jams from the BB?

For 100bb stacks i usually prefer to flat 3bets with QQ for the reasons cobra stated, although against certain villains i cant get it in quick enough for 100bb stacks, all depends on how bad/spewy/tilted the villain is and if he's shoving wider than QQ+ AK.

Originally Posted by mondayscool

Or am I just leveling myself?

Pretty much this. Too many villains at these stakes consider a 4bet to say "I'm never folding" so they're expecting a call when they 5bet shove.

Originally Posted by seven-deuce

What if you open for 3x in the CO at 6max and a 40bb short stacker jams from the BB?

For 100bb stacks i usually prefer to flat 3bets with QQ for the reasons cobra stated, although against certain villains i cant get it in quick enough for 100bb stacks, all depends on how bad/spewy/tilted the villain is and if he's shoving wider than QQ+ AK.

Against a short-stack I think I have to call, especially only 40bb. As you point out though, if I think a villain is shoving wide due to tilt or whatever then I will sometimes call, but I am never happy about it.

Quick and painless

Doing the math I need 45% roughly to call, therefore he has to have AK, JJ.

Thanks all