A-Qo on a flop - 9s-3d-Tc

How would you play this hand ?

The villian is extremely loose passive. Limps with anything. A-J, 10-Qs etc.


Button ($4.53)
SB ($1.34)
BB ($0.96)
UTG UTG ($5.38)
UTG+1 ($4.08)
MP ($2.35)
MP ($2)
CO-1 Hero ($0.97)
CO ($2.90)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO-1 with Ah Qs
UTG calls 0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to 0.08, 4 folds, UTG calls 0.06.

Flop (0.19) 9s 3d Tc
UTG checks, Hero bets 0.14, UTG calls 0.14.

Turn (0.47) Jc
UTG checks, Hero??

Fire another barrel is what I would do.

I would check back. If he is that loose and passive I don't think I would cbet the flop.

He's not gonna fold anything that beats you but
your winning enough chk back if you hit cool if not decide on the river if you can have the best hand often enough for the price he gives you or chk it down if he doesn't bet you'll win enough and if you give money to the fish make sure you're the one that takes it back off him. Friday night drunkard message

Originally Posted by kickass

He's not gonna fold anything that beats you but
your winning enough

I don't think you're EVER ahead on this turn. a loose passive has a lot of shitty 1 pair hands he'll c/c this flop with, and a lot of his draws hit pairs. he might let go a pair of nines with no draw, but he'll fold all those weaker pairs most of the time and if he doesn't we have good equity vs that so I think it's a clear bet.

The problem is that hero started with a weird stack size. 100bb I fire 3/4 pot...with this stack size I'd want to bet less than half, but I'm not sure if that's big enough to make him fold a large enough part of his range.

You also really need to know if there is a certain amount of barrels you can fire to get him out of a pot. There are certain passive players who almost 100% call the flop and then fold 50% of the turns, with their ranges. On the other hand, some can call TPMK and less all the way down to the end.
I would probably fire a second barrel, though, because you know he is rarely going to re-raise and if he does then you insta-fold because you know how polarized he is, since he is most likely going to end up having the nuts or close to it. Not only that, but even if he does call, you still can fire another barrel if a spade or 8x, kx hits the river, just check Qx behind him.

Check behind. Also I would suggest buying in for 100bb.

I'd buy in for 100BB first off.

Like d0zer said having a weird stack makes things harder since his range is quite elastic (probably folds nothing to a 0.15 bet, lots more stuff to a pot bet).

Originally Posted by kickass

He's not gonna fold anything that beats you but
your winning enough

no idea what i was thinking about when i wrote this. apologies

Checking behind was the advice I got from some other friends as well.
I usually c-bet most flops in position if checked to me. This could be a leak in my game. But I'll remember to check behind against loose passive players in the future.

I dont have any stats software so I couldnt know whether he would fold to my flop c-bet, turn c-bet etc.

So, the lesson here is: Check back on bad flops against loose passive players and start off with 100BBs.



Flop (0.19) 9s 3d Tc
UTG checks, Hero bets 0.14, UTG calls 0.14.

Turn (0.47) Jc
UTG checks, Hero bets 0.14, UTG calls 0.14.

River (0.75) 4s
UTG checks, Hero checks

Hero shows Ah Qs
UTG shows Td Qd

UTG wins 0.75 with One pair, Tens

turn card improves his range too much to barrel, nice that we have some extra equity.

I'd shut down here with air and just take the freebie now.

Bigspenda, how would you usually play against loose passives? Would you c-bet this flop and check the turn? Or would you check back the flop as suggested by many people here and on other forums?

yeah our FE on this turn with most betsizes is probably <85% as a pure guess given how much of his flop calling range has at least a pair+gutter, pair+OESD, two pair, made straights etc. i'd check it back and hope to river the best hand