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  1. #1

    Default Push AA here with this action?

    Did I get too overzelous with this? If it were HU I reraise to ~$5 but the bet and call complicated it for me. The pot's already 60BB and I have a stack of 90BB left. I've let too many people in hands like this too cheaply and have gotten burned. I thought about raising to $5 but this isn't HU. Pushing here gives the BB 2:1 pot odds; if he calls UTG+1 gets 3:1. If I only raise to $5 that leaves $4 behind, BB gets 3.1:1 and UTG+1 gets 4.1:1 and leaves them 4.5:1 odds or better to call a turn push.

    This is a POT limit table, BTW. I figured UTG+1 for 99-QQ, (does an overpair to the board call a push enough to make it profitable?). BB has such a wide range IMHO-- 65, 87 (lord please no), 89, T9, A8....

    BB is 71%/0.5%/1 over 200 hands
    UTG+1 is 29%/1.4%/3 over 145 hands



    Full Tilt Poker
    Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
    8 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $4.10
    UTG+1: $7.70
    MP1: $5.70
    MP2: $5.30
    CO: $16
    Hero: $10.15
    SB: $13.10
    BB: $16.30

    Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A A
    UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

    Flop: 7 7 8 ($3.05, 3 players)
    BB bets $1.5, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $9.05
  2. #2
    given what you predict are the player's hand ranges, what are the arguments for pushing?
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  3. #3
    I was mostly thinking that 99-QQ leads the flop and may call a push (50% of the time maybe?). The pot's already pretty big, so taking it down now isn't the worst thing in the world.

    An OESD might call a push and smaller chance that KQ/KJ calls a push.

    (Is it foolish to minimize the idea that either of these guys is entering a pot raised to 10BB with a 7 in their hand?)

    Aside from 7x and 88 I'm ahead. If I'm up against QQ and T9, my equity is 61% (28% for the OESD and 11% for the QQ) so laying 2:1 odds is about right given the above possibilities.

    I just wonder if I needlessly blew them off this hand or if I did enough to protect it but give them a chance to make a bad call.
  4. #4
    don't act in a way that maximizes the opponent's chance of calling you with a hand that beats you and folding a hand that he should fold, based on the pot odds offered.

    Generally, there is no reason to raise more than the pot. I don't see a reason to deviate from this here.
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred
    Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever
    well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
  5. #5
    This is something that confuses me a bit--

    When you say "raise the size of the pot", does that mean make it so that they have to call the amount of the current pot (essentially gining 2:1)? This was a PL hand, so the max/pot raise was putting me all-in.

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