Preflop ranging

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

OK here goes for 1 to 3...

A nitty straight-forward player raises to 4bb UTG, you're in CO and BU is a loose passive who is likely to come along to see a flop. You are 100BB deep.
Call: TT-22,AQs-A2s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,54s,43s,32s, AQo-AJo,KQo
3Bet: KK+,AK
Not folding JJ or QQ here, but also prolly not 3Betting either?

You're in the BB, and it's folded to BU, who is a solid winning TAGG. He opens for 3bb, SB folds. Again 100bb deep.
Call: TT-66,ATs-A7s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo,KJo
3Bet: JJ+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+,Kqo

You're on the BU, MP1 unknown opens for 3bb with 80bb, MP2 who is a reg calls with 120bb, CO who is a feesh with 60bb calls.
Call: TT-22,AQs-A2s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,54s,43s,32s, AQo-ATo,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
3Bet: JJ+,AKs,AKo

[insert howls of derisive laughter here]

Yeah baudib's answer is close to how I'd play these spots.

1. Further questions for DoubleJ: when you call a nit's UTG raise with ATo, what do you expect will happen on an A-high flop? Do we expect this to be a profitable situation?

What is your plan for post-flop when you call with 87s?

2. What will happen the majority of the time vs a decent tag reg when you 3-bet him?

Originally Posted by eugmac

Yeah baudib's answer is close to how I'd play these spots.

1. Further questions for DoubleJ: when you call a nit's UTG raise with ATo, what do you expect will happen on an A-high flop? Do we expect this to be a profitable situation?

What is your plan for post-flop when you call with 87s?

2. What will happen the majority of the time vs a decent tag reg when you 3-bet him?

Why do people hate playing AMAZING SCs but will flat 22 in a situation like this? 87s hits 2pair or 8outs+ ~26% of the time and is going to make the regs life hell on a lot of flops now if we have hands like this in our range as long as we don't go batshit insane everytime we flop a gutshot.

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Why do people hate playing AMAZING SCs but will flat 22 in a situation like this? 87s hits 2pair or 8outs+ ~26% of the time and is going to make the regs life hell on a lot of flops now if we have hands like this in our range as long as we don't go batshit insane everytime we flop a gutshot.

because we're mindless setmining nits :/ and due to lack of post-flop confidence in me being able to steal pots away from nit playing a strong range.

appreciate you coming down to join us yaawn.

Originally Posted by eugmac

appreciate you coming down to join us yaawn.

btw - what is it, the yaawn?

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

btw - what is it, the yaawn?

talking about mr icanhascheesebet

Originally Posted by eugmac

1. Further questions for DoubleJ: What is your plan for post-flop when you call with 87s?

well, 87s hits 2pair or 8outs+ ~26% of the time and is going to make the regs life hell on a lot of flops now if ...... errrrrr.......

seriously - thanks everyone for all this feedback - outstanding!

will respond properly shortly; cooking a curry right now

Originally Posted by eugmac

1. Further questions for DoubleJ: when you call a nit's UTG raise with ATo, what do you expect will happen on an A-high flop? Do we expect this to be a profitable situation?

What is your plan for post-flop when you call with 87s?

2. What will happen the majority of the time vs a decent tag reg when you 3-bet him?

My honest answer here is "I don't really know...yet", and this was the main driver for posting.

i'm aware of this as a horrible gap in my "game", so the input from yous guyz is really appreciated. it's also something i plan to work on 1-to-1 with Carroters.

FWIW - i put the above ranges together after reading some articles on 'another site' [koff koff], so any similarities to Icanhastreebet's responses are purely coincidental.

The crux of the articles is [if i'm understanding it properly] "your flatting range in position will be based around implied odds hands like suited connectors, suited aces, pairs and suited Broadways"

i invite your comments on this