Quote Originally Posted by ttanaka
I think the groupings are actually less limit centric. When I play, I value suited cards, but I guess not as much as you do, I don't generally chase drawing hands, especially low/second best ones. That's why low suited connectors and semi-connectors are at the bottom of my chart (if at all). The only drawing hands I like are nut ones, so I'll play the Axs.
Interesting, only playing nut straights/flushes, yet play pairs without the best or second best kicker?

I used to see being suited as a bonus, but there are 3 reasons I now select for it more aggressivly

1. Multi-draws. It's nice when you have a 45%+ shot of hitting an out
2. Semi-bluffs against timid/strong players. Two ways to win.
3. Drawing at pot or implied pot odds against weak betters (preferably that will pay me off when I make my draw.)

Quote Originally Posted by ttanaka
QJ KT QT JT - these can be trouble suited or not in my opinion. They just need to be played carefully. Average cards against average players can still turn a profit if you're a little better than the average player.
Suited is the difference between profitable and too much money lost getting outkicked or folding to a credible bet.

Quote Originally Posted by ttanaka
You're right, baby pocket pairs do deserve a bit more respect, but I don't raise with any of them. Even on your list, you have AQ AJ KQ above all pairs 99 and lower, yet you're willing to fold those on a tight table and not your lower ranked pairs. (I don't stop playing any of my hands due to the tightness of a table, I'll only add hands or play Group7's out of position on a weak table. I figure any table that's as tight or tighter than me is way, way too tight, I gotta leave.)
Adding hands, subtracting same difference. Per my orgininal comment you can't really put a strict ranking on hold 'em hands. KQ and AJ aren't auto-folded on a tight table, I was probably too draconian there. Depends on position and if someone came in for a raise. On a tough table I won't raise them out of position and may even drop them. Depends, but they definately go down in value.

Quote Originally Posted by ttanaka
A9 and K9 are pretty weak, I only play those in late pos. But again, I'm not looking to play that many hands on hopes of a flush or straight, I usually don't hang around long enough to even find out if I'll make one or not. My limit game isa different story, of course.
I'd rather chase a draw than take A9 or K9 top pair. At least then I'm 90% sure where I stand. 9 top pair is either a draw or a sick joke.