Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex
I 100% understand atonious and what he said its exactly what i did my first 2 years i would call just to see what happens and raise just to see whats happens n now i know i developed my game.
Never read a book either thow i wanted to but i dont feel any need although i bought 6 lol

I DEFFFFFFF think people on this site are a lil to crazy about OMG WHATS HIS RANGE HOLY SHIT WHATS HIS RANGE!!!!! and omg pokerstove it! and y did u 3 bet! and check this bet that 3 bet this dont 3 bet this. dont reaise this preflop do raise this preflop THAT DOESENT APPLY TO EVERYBODY it fucked my game up for so long taking what everybody said to heart. PLAY YOUR STYLEEE DEVELOP YOUR OWN GAME. still again dont get me wrong soak and take it what everbody says but make sure the overall way u play allows it. I spend quite a bit of time in lala land thinking randomly like really deeply about poker. u gotta develope your own game. phil ivey says it too. he says forget the books when your at the table although still absorb it and add it to your knowledge of poker.

PRACTICE is the extremely easy choice obivously a lil studying to but ACTUALLY PLAY!!! and record in your head the spots u lost money and then fix it!

like i seriously wonder like how the fuck is X guy replying to everything and chit chatting it up about everything all the time... Im always at the tables.
I'm kind of upset I started this discussion after this catastrophe of a post.

Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex
this quote is incredible wow just some peopel i LOL pretty hard...oh and god that guys funny too haha
And then I'm not exactly sure what this means. I think he called God a comedian or something.

ANYWHO, I guess I'll chime in now. I definitely think creating a base to build on is totally necessary in poker. It is almost impossible to sit down and learn without getting an idea of strategies, tactics, and maneuvers to get you around the game. Shit, I never even thought of 3betting light until I started reading about such a thing on this site.

Hand histories must be looked over. The idea of ranges must be practiced. Understanding how to exploit your opponent's leaks must be learned. But you must put these ideas into play! It does no good to keep studying without putting the hours in. Practice is definitely more important than the studying aspect of poker. I'd say it's about 70:30 or 65:35 (practice over studying).

But then you have a certain poster that obviously has the wrong idea about studying. T-Rex, you're going to get crushed by that ego of yours. Study. You won't be able to get past 10NL without doing so. You're not going to pick up the game by playing without learning to master your craft. I would have never began to 3bet players on the CO or button that always try and steal blinds without reading up and understanding the reasoning behind it. I may have come up with it myself by endlessly playing and having my blinds stolen...but studying has helped me save money and gave me that technique to work with.

Charlie Parker, a musician, said it best (one of my favorite quotes): “First you master the instrument, then you master the repertory, then you forget all that shit and just play.”

At the table, don't kill yourself over what the "right/wrong" move is. I don't think there is a right/wrong move. There are a lot of other things to think about and more than one way to play a hand (depending on your style).

However, you MUST master your craft before sitting at the table. By doing so, the game will become second nature and good moves will become obvious.