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    Default Practical..... Highest Possible Winrate at any stakes?

    Let us say someone like Hollingol moves down to 2 NL, he spends 2 years there and has extensive reads on almost all the players there.

    What would his winrate be? I mean is it possible he could obtain something like 50BB/100 hands? Maybe even 100BB?150BB?200BB!!!
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    Hall might even be a losing player at 2nl.
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    Default This is interesting thread

    But I am more interested in whar are your currents winrates
    and what stakes?

    T.
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    Default Re: This is interesting thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Turska
    But I am more interested in whar are your currents winrates
    and what stakes?

    T.
    43bb/100 at .25/.25 pot limit over last 1k hands. Thats sustainable, right??
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    Default Re: This is interesting thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryToma
    Quote Originally Posted by Turska
    But I am more interested in whar are your currents winrates
    and what stakes?

    T.
    43bb/100 at .25/.25 pot limit over last 1k hands. Thats sustainable, right??
    Yeah, if it drops below 40 I'd seriously start rethinking whether poker is for you.
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    Default Re: This is interesting thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockymv
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryToma
    Quote Originally Posted by Turska
    But I am more interested in whar are your currents winrates
    and what stakes?

    T.
    43bb/100 at .25/.25 pot limit over last 1k hands. Thats sustainable, right??
    Yeah, if it drops below 40 I'd seriously start rethinking whether poker is for you.

    Hahaha

    My main stake is £25NL and in the last 17,000 hands or so I am round about 9PTBB/100. It's a shame I can't manage the same in $50, £50, $100 or even $25....
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    Just a situation im in.

    I play .01/.02 that is normally called 2NL, but at the site i play at the maximum buy in is $5. This is absolutely massive in terms of my winrate. I have made heaps in stackings with showdowns, and if the max buy in was $2, I think i would just about halve my winrate (130bb/100, yes very streaky so far) so hypothetically i could be at 60-70bb/100 with $2 stacks and then with downswings and quieter times, average that 30bb/100 at 2NL that people talk about. But at NL with .01/.02 blinds with $5 buy ins, surely that maximum figure now just about doubles.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biondino
    My main stake is £25NL and in the last 17,000 hands or so I am round about 9PTBB/100. It's a shame I can't manage the same in $50, £50, $100 or even $25....
    Have you considered the fact that you only need to make 4.5PTBB/100 to be making the same. And even a 5PTBB/100 at £50 would be an improvement.
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    I have considered it time after time, dude!

    Biondino = COMPLETE FUCKIN' PUSSY

    (also, at $50NL I am below 3BB/100; at £50 I am well into the red - both with fairly small sample sizes, admittedly, especially the latter)
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    Quote Originally Posted by givememyleg
    Hall might even be a losing player at 2nl.
    Assuming he doesnt adjust, and as his game is incredibly versatile thats pretty unlikely.

    I think the biggest winner at the lower stakes would be a player like Lolo who plays an incredible solid TAGG game, at the microstakes a lagg is going to be spewing pulling a lot of the moves they depend on.
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    I have run 14 BB/100 for months at 25 PL/NL. Tracked hands 50 k played a lot more. My PT started to run very slowly so I dont use that anymore.

    I have played some 50NL/100NL during summer but
    not enough to say what my accurate winrate is. I
    think its about 5 BB / 100.
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    I'm kind of pulling # out of my ass, but...

    When I was clearing bonuses on Boss media sites, the 10NL is terrible. I made ~$100 everytime for 1k raked hands. At 3-4 different sites.

    So, say 2/3 hands are raked, that means I was making 66bb/100 over 4k ish hands.

    Call bullshit if you like, but a couple players on that site loved to give away stacks. On a typical 4 tables I would break even on 1, make a decent win-rate (5-10bb/100) on 2 and be +2 buyins on the fourth.

    Sustainable? I have no idea.

    {EDIT: I'm going to pull my guess back to 50bb/100. It's not PT supported and I didn't have tracking software at the time anyway}
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    I run 7.5PTBB/100 at $50NL after 26k hands. Getting ready to move up soon....just working on my pf raising and post flop play for a bit and then I'm gonna move to $100nl. At $25NL I was 11PTBB/100, 27k hands. I don't think either of these are the best possible, but I would guess that they are certainly better than average.
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    "7.5PTBB/100" I'm new to poker, and all this lingo is getting me confused. How is your winrate calculated?what does PTBB mean? how much PBTB/100 is a decent winrate?

    Thanks for replyin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverickai
    "7.5PTBB/100" I'm new to poker, and all this lingo is getting me confused. How is your winrate calculated?what does PTBB mean? how much PBTB/100 is a decent winrate?

    Thanks for replyin!
    PT is Poker Tracker. It is a software program that tracks your play and auto calculates any stat you would want to have. One of them is winrate, which is expressed in BB/100. When people quote their winrate, it is usually from PT, which translates to Poker Tracker Big Bets per 100 hands. A big bet is twice the big blind, therefore at $50nl, 7.5PTBB/100 means I win $7.5 per 100 hands on average. PTBB/100 and BB/100 usually mean the same thing when posted here. bb/100 usually means big blinds per 100, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverickai
    "7.5PTBB/100" I'm new to poker, and all this lingo is getting me confused. How is your winrate calculated?what does PTBB mean? how much PBTB/100 is a decent winrate?

    Thanks for replyin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy-akb
    Quote Originally Posted by givememyleg
    Hall might even be a losing player at 2nl.
    Assuming he doesnt adjust, and as his game is incredibly versatile thats pretty unlikely.

    I think the biggest winner at the lower stakes would be a player like Lolo who plays an incredible solid TAGG game, at the microstakes a lagg is going to be spewing pulling a lot of the moves they depend on.
    I think on low stakes the SLAG's are gonna make the most money.Everytime i see a player like that hes up alot.
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    The best players IMO are the GOOD super loose aggressives. Anyone can limp into a pot at anytime and push all in on the flop.

    The best possible winrate depends on the # of hands played and the limits. Most FTR players could rake in 100BB/100 hands @ 1 cent 2 cent. @ 10,000NL, a good winrate would probably be 2bb/100.

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