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    i've been reading about pot odds...bit confused..

    if i have top pair and don't want other players to hit a straight or flush...assuming the odds of both are no greater than 35%.... how much should i put into the pot to make the odds unfavourable to the drawers...

    let say...the pot has $1....do i bet pot?

    he's what i interpret....

    if i bet pot...this raises it to $2...then let say it's head to head...the other player needs to contribute $1 to win $2....hence a 50% contribution and odds unfavourable for them to call? (assume chance of them hitting is 33% and no more bets after flop...)

    in ten turns...

    the raiser will win 6.7 times and the caller will win 3.3 times..

    on wins: 3.3*$2 = $6.60
    on losses: 6.6*$1 = $6.60

    doesn't this mean the odds are even? then if i was to calculate my own pot odds...do i compare my contribution to what is in the pot at the time or compare to total pot?

    i don't know where the flaw is... please advise...

    other question... if the raise is pot...then according to pot odds should i call or fold....?

    thanks.
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    I think you're just not considering the whole pot. If you assume none of the starting $1.00 pot is either of yours, you have to count it for both of you. So like your example, the pot is $1.00, you raise $1.00 and he calls with a 33% chance of hitting the flush or straight. Say this is done 10 times.

    He will win the $3 pot 3.3 times or $9.90.
    You will win the $3 pot 6.7 times or $20.10.

    So, if you assume the original $1.00 in the pot is neither of yours, it cost him $10 for these 10 $1.00 bets and he loses $.10.

    Now lets say the two of you were the .25/.50 blinds, everyone folds, and the small blind calls, and you in the big blind checks. Now you each end up with the 10 bets costing you each $15.00. Now he loses $5.10 and you win $5.10 overall. I think this is the way to look at it since it sounds like you knew you had TPTK and that he might be on a draw.

    If the odds were 50/50 you each put in $15 to win the $30 worth of pots.

    I hope this makes sense and that I explained it right. I think it's difficult to get the exact numbers when calculating pots odds in this manner because you don't normally count how much is in the pot because I think it's assumed that you both put in an equal share up until this point, also the same way if there was a third person that might call your raise of $1.00.

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