Fnord.

In very loose passive games where they play like limit but call raises im happy to play alot of cards. Im more than happy playing ATs for the A (but letting it go to a raise) if I think im being called by A9 and below.


I wasnt suggesting tightening up. I was suggesting raising less. In games where players call too much I dont really think its worth raising hands like KQ, where you are likely behind to an A preflop. It is certainly worth playing KJ though. My reasoning is that you actually need to show down the best cards to win, so by all means start with above average (but slightly weak starting cards) but you may as well see what you flop before you go crazy.

In games where players fold too much (which is the impression I get from the way you describe your 100NL games) then its worth raising alot more often since you have 2 ways to win. You can show the best hand, or make them fold the best hand.

As for your questions

Quote Originally Posted by Fnord

4 limpers to you and you have on the button, your play?
At a table with 4 limpers and no raise I have to assume it is a loose passive table. In this case I probably limp that on the button, but I might just fold it on the CO. I really want to be able to take free cards with it.
Against weak/tight players I might raise to punish the limpers and set up a flop steal, or I might just fold.

Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
A limper, min-raise, two terrible players call and you have on the button, your play? From the cut-off?
Definatly playable. The question is does he limp/reraise. Id like to catch 2 pair/ straight/ flush against his AA if he will pay it off. If its the type of game (like I play) where this is a low PP like....80% of the time and he will set or fold then Ill raise with any playable hand here and cbet the flop. Im hoping the 2 terrible players will limp/fold.
From the cutoff is exactly the same. Even more important to raise here as I want the button for free cards again.