post #3000 by m2m

sup









okay ill give back to microconkers in some way besides creeping down to their games late at night while i cant sleep or am on tilt ans taking their monies.

feel free to ask me anything - kinda like a well, but not a well because i do not yet deserve a true 'well'.

I remember when I played higher stakes then you and we both sucked at poker. Its been a little while, but now your much higher up, im lower, and only one of us still sucks.

So i suppose ill start this off with the standard question. Aside from countless amounts of volume, what do you feel was the biggest factor in helping you get better at poker that would relate to a microstuck donk like me?

Originally Posted by JKDS

I remember when I played higher stakes then you and we both sucked at poker. Its been a little while, but now your much higher up, im lower, and only one of us still sucks.

So i suppose ill start this off with the standard question. Aside from countless amounts of volume, what do you feel was the biggest factor in helping you get better at poker that would relate to a microstuck donk like me?

Tough to say, I mean, this answer will probably change over time depending on how I view my development as a player and a human being. I think the biggest though is the opportunity of time. I don't have a family to look after, I didn't have a job when I started taking this real seriously, and I was also done with school temporarily. So basically, I just had alot of time to put in the effort to learning the game and trying to get better. I also had the chance to just take a few days off if things weren't going well and it didn't hinder my progress too badly. The problem with having all this time though is it's so fucking easy to just get lazy. I've had a few stretches where I didn't feel like playing poker anymore but managed to pull through somehow.

The thing about having that time is for someone who isn't really that smart to begin with, they are still able to progress because they will be putting in the hours one way or another and efficiency becomes less important I guess in the grand scheme of things. Like I had basically unlimited time for poker (not literally) but if you only have like 5 or 10 hours a week it will certainly put you at a disadvantage.

The closest factor next to having the time to put the effort into improvement regarding the top factors that have gotten me through micro land would be spending a lot of time questioning what other people say - whether its directly to them (i.e. literally asking why) or just sitting down and thinking it out for yourself/drawing your own conclusions (this becomes more and more important as you move up)

What was the biggest leak you have discovered in your game recently?

How can someone improve their work ethics? Any general advise?

Also some info about your work ethics, what you usually do for HH review/off the digital felt to improve your game, your motivations, what a weekly grind/study schedule looks like for you, etc.

How do you go about dealing with runbad? Like say you have a week where everything's just going wrong you canfeel your game starting to suffer as a result etc, how do you pick yourself back up from that and stay focussed on your long term goals?

Why are you so wise?

Can you haz my babies?

Seriously tho. How did you approach the studying of the game? Did you take one concept at a time or did you try to get an overview of the concepts? Did you start by eliminating your weaknesses or did you amplify your strengths? etc. And how did you split up the grinding/studying ratio?

And I would love to hear your answer to sup3rman and carroters's question.

how does it feel to be a walking pro-activ commercial?

why do you insist on telling the irc community when u eat/go to the gym with status updates?

if you had to pick manchester united or liverpool?

how does it feel to be held back in a relationship at the young age of w/e you are?

smell my finger?

on an unrelated note people suck at asking well questions

In your opinion,is it more profitable to multitable(12+) 2nl or move up to 5nl 4 tabling (when obvious prerequisites are met)?

How many hands have you played since Jan 09?

Is it still fun or is it a job now? Or is it a fun job?

What do (did) you do when you start getting burned out on poker? I'm sure the answer is take a break so skip this one and go to the next one...

How long of a break can someone take and not lose any skill (and I use this term loosly) that they may have? I mean a complete break with no studying, playing, reading forums, dreaming, etc. I went on vacation for a week but I'm not very motivated to play so I was thinking of taking another break.

What is a synonym for "Eh"?

Originally Posted by oskar

What was the biggest leak you have discovered in your game recently?

same as always, never giving anyone credit when I'm running bad and just getting shown the nuts every 5 hands.

Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN

How can someone improve their work ethics? Any general advise?

Also some info about your work ethics, what you usually do for HH review/off the digital felt to improve your game, your motivations, what a weekly grind/study schedule looks like for you, etc.

wrong person to ask I'm a lazy sob.

for HH review I have a few guys on aim I talk to regularly about poker and we're always swapping HH's and talking strat. I try not to waste too much time looking at the 'lol standard spots' and instead I try coming up with hands where I could consider alternate lines in spots where you can get a bit creative with your range and think up different ways to exploit someone.

grind/study lately has been about 2k-3k hands a day, watching about a vid every couple days, and talking about HH's almost daily.

Originally Posted by Carroters

How do you go about dealing with runbad? Like say you have a week where everything's just going wrong you canfeel your game starting to suffer as a result etc, how do you pick yourself back up from that and stay focussed on your long term goals?

I swear a lot out loud while playing and it eases the pain a bit calling every stupid fucking nit slowrolling with middle set on J62 nit a fucking cunt or like those faggots who tank forever after 4betting before calling my shove with AK meanwhile I'm shoving like so much fucking shit cuz im on monkey fuck tilt and decided to 3bet the faggot 95% of the time to piss him off and plan to just shovel whatever crap I hold /rant.

Okay but seriously I try to just look at the big picture and think about how I've played something like a million hands of poker (or close enough to it) and I've been winning this whole time and I've had stretches where I lose but eventually I just go on a big heater so this losing thing that seems to be happening is just fucking standard and theres no need to worry. But like I still tilt so bad and man I swear I'd be a 4ptbb/100 winner at least if it weren't for it. Oh well, something to work on there.

Originally Posted by oskar

Why are you so wise?

hahahahaha

Originally Posted by xpaand

Can you haz my babies?

I hate most kids

Originally Posted by xpaand

Seriously tho. How did you approach the studying of the game? Did you take one concept at a time or did you try to get an overview of the concepts? Did you start by eliminating your weaknesses or did you amplify your strengths? etc. And how did you split up the grinding/studying ratio?

And I would love to hear your answer to sup3rman and carroters's question.

I spent a lot of time all over the place. I had a bunch of concepts floating around in my head and then I remember one day I read Renton's Full Ring guide and it sort of gave me the general overview of how things operate and I began putting in some hands. Then once I had read that guide a bunch and needed to understand poker better I would go into focusing on certain spots/concepts getting better at one thing at a time (i.e. blind stealing fundamentals, 3bet bluffing, barreling, etc)

Originally Posted by Bbickes

how does it feel to be a walking pro-activ commercial?

why do you insist on telling the irc community when u eat/go to the gym with status updates?

if you had to pick manchester united or liverpool?

how does it feel to be held back in a relationship at the young age of w/e you are?

smell my finger?

1. I feel like I am still 17

2. Just in case someone cares/it shows I am n/a

3. meh

4. if I disregard the proactive then my opinion of my age bumps up to 30.

5. I respectfully decline

Originally Posted by supahaole

In your opinion,is it more profitable to multitable(12+) 2nl or move up to 5nl 4 tabling (when obvious prerequisites are met)?

are you playing 6max or full ring?

I suggest most to just 6-8 table for FR (add in like a few sessions of 10-12 tabling right before you move up to pad your bankroll) until you're at a stake you want to play for income. you will learn way more and probably at a better pace. most of the guys who 12-20 tabled there way through micro land are stuck playing a billion tables of 25nl making next to nothing.

I never even bothered to question maximizing profit at 2nl or 5nl because you just won't be there for long and the point isn't to boost your hourly its to learn. Worry about hourly once you get to 100nl+ and the amount of money you can pull in becomes significant. If you are well rolled for 5nl, play there. If you figure out you're making slightly less per hour there than at 2nl for whatever reason fuck it. keep playing and learning and you'll eventually move up to the next stake and make more in the long run.

when you do first move up its a good idea to play fewer tables (4-6 is a great start) since you'll have time to think clearly through all your decisions and take notes.

Originally Posted by Sasquach991

How many hands have you played since Jan 09?

Is it still fun or is it a job now? Or is it a fun job?

What do (did) you do when you start getting burned out on poker? I'm sure the answer is take a break so skip this one and go to the next one...

How long of a break can someone take and not lose any skill (and I use this term loosly) that they may have? I mean a complete break with no studying, playing, reading forums, dreaming, etc. I went on vacation for a week but I'm not very motivated to play so I was thinking of taking another break.

What is a synonym for "Eh"?

1. not sure because I have 2 databases and then a bunch of lost tournament hands etc but it must be close/slightly over 1 million. PTR has me at near 600k and I have a couple 100k of micros then a few thousand sng/mtts so I think that would be a bit over 1mill.

2. fun job that isn't a job

3. hah, I took like 3 months off and played COD then went to europe. that sort of refreshed me and lately I've been back putting in the time.

4. go ahead and take another break. I took 3 weeks off where I played no poker at all and felt fine coming back. just remember that if you take a real long extended one (months) the games are constantly changing so you may be out of sync a bit when you come back until you adjust to the new conditions.

5. huh

I had a really fun question about some stupid bitch getting naked at a party or something but then the power went out so fuck it.

Originally Posted by Bbickes

smell my finger?

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

5. I respectfully decline

Please come to lemonstravaganza so you can smell his finger

Its lemonfest. Fek man

lemonparty? And bbickes is going to be there? I knew it!

canadian lemonparty is gunna be the tits.

How much money have you made playing online poker?

Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Playing poker? Education? Retired and living on some island?

Who have you learned the most from in regards to poker, in the poker world?

What are your plans for the future (Next 2 years etc)
Do you see yourself fitting poker into that future?
What do you see as the future of poker in regards to popularity, UIGEA etc etc.

If a nit tilts in the forest but you don't see it, did it really happen?

If you could donkey punch one of your ex's with no repercussions, would you?

If you were bruce willis, would you still play poker?

Why does !luck fail so hard at poker?

Originally Posted by CBAT

How much money have you made playing online poker?

Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Playing poker? Education? Retired and living on some island?

Who have you learned the most from in regards to poker, in the poker world?

1. roughly $40,000 USD give or take a couple g's.

2. 5 years....christ. Probably a combination of education/getting into some sort of business. Since I'm still unsure of what I want to do it's hard to say but I don't see myself playing poker full time in 5 years. Then again I never saw myself making an income from poker ever so meh, who knows.

3. A combination of many people. I think reading things posted by Renton/Nutsinho/Spoonitnow/ISF (to name just a few) especially because they are all really clear on their logic and analyze things really well. Aside from that I would have to say I've learned the most from myself because in this game you live through every moment and each mistake and its hard to just ignore it. So its either learn from mistakes or keep making them I suppose.

Originally Posted by amifat

What are your plans for the future (Next 2 years etc)
Do you see yourself fitting poker into that future?
What do you see as the future of poker in regards to popularity, UIGEA etc etc.

Next 2 years I will be playing poker as far as I know. My gf is going to be in school during that time and hopefully at the end of that we will be able to buy a condo/house.

No idea about the future really other than there will always be newcomers to the game and eventually solid winners will either move up or move out so games should be okay I guess around small-midstakes though anything could happen I suppose. I live in Canada so I'm pretty ignorant with regards to the UIGEA in that I don't understand it enough to make any future predictions. My guess though is (so it seems) poker works alot like the stock market. There will be ups and downs, and perhaps even depressions (now? future?). But the games will always be changing one way or another and those who stay on top of whats changing will come out ahead (I guess). Fish not being able to deposit would suck ass though so anything to make it easier for them is certainly good for the poker economy. (alot of speculation in this repsonse I think..)

Originally Posted by !Luck

If a nit tilts in the forest but you don't see it, did it really happen?

If you could donkey punch one of your ex's with no repercussions, would you?

If you were bruce willis, would you still play poker?

1. hmm, well I go by the moto 'pics or it didn't happen', so no

2. most certainly

3. hell yes

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Why does !luck fail so hard at poker?

levels himself and,

not accurately considering his opponents range based on previous streets action is another.

i.e. you open KQo otb vs a weak limper who flat calls. heads up flop is A33r he checks to you and you cbet 2/3p. he calls. turn is a 7 and goes check check. river is a Q and villain leads for 2/3p and you call. Standard leak.

fix that and you'll add alot to that wr

1. What was your UTG to middle position range at micros?
2. How often do you isolate?

Originally Posted by kmind

1. What was your UTG to middle position range at micros?
2. How often do you isolate?

1. I typically opened 66+,AQ+,KQs from early position and then just added hands as I got closer to the button. I think a lot more about table dynamics now though so my ranges are constantly shifting as opposed to being absolute.

2. depends a lot on who the player is, how they play postflop, their limping range, our positions, and who is behind me.

Have you played much in live games? If so, what are the most important skills that you have learned online that translate to live games and what are the skills that are harder to improve by just playing online?

Biggest realization/eureka moment you had while studying poker?

What's your favorite Pokemon?

Am I going to be the next Durrrr?

Would you rather be really angry all the time or really sad all the time?

When you were a kid what did you want to be when you grew up?

What's the biggest downswing you've ever had, what was it like?

double post. my bad

Hory Sheet! When did M2M get good?

Ok. Since you were the last guy to ever play any serious hands against me (seriously, waay back when) If I were going to jump back into poker what 5 things would you recommend to me to help me not suck so bad at poker any more?

What do you think of the whole vuvuzelalalalal's controversy at the World Cup?

Who's your horse for the World Cup?

American Football? Favorite team?

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

What's your favorite Pokemon?

charzard

Originally Posted by HoopyDude

Biggest realization/eureka moment you had while studying poker?

just because I hold a pair that certainly isn't going to be good at showdown does not mean I have to fold.

Originally Posted by Tasha

Have you played much in live games? If so, what are the most important skills that you have learned online that translate to live games and what are the skills that are harder to improve by just playing online?

I have played a bit of live. Most important live skill imo is certainly patience and tilt control. I have neither, therefore for me to play live for a living the money would have to mean alot (i.e. $1000nl+) to keep me from just spewing/gambling/not caring and force me to put in the effort.

I think its easier to improve all your skills playing online because you're seeing more hands in a short period of time. The only one you can't really exercise is the behavior/etiquette skills required to play a live game and be welcome back.

Originally Posted by Ragnar4

Hory Sheet! When did M2M get good?

Ok. Since you were the last guy to ever play any serious hands against me (seriously, waay back when) If I were going to jump back into poker what 5 things would you recommend to me to help me not suck so bad at poker any more?

What do you think of the whole vuvuzelalalalal's controversy at the World Cup?

Who's your horse for the World Cup?

American Football? Favorite team?

1. I don't remember how you played but I think the biggest thing in general for guys trying to move up is to just try and understand why you do everything and what makes it profitable. i.e. why do we open a wide range on the button? why do we 3bet here? why is this a good barrel spot? why is my sizing here excellent? - could it be better? If you don't understand why, post the hand or a theory question in general in the forums and there will be plenty of people here to help out.

5 things would be 1) play more 2) post hands 3) respond to threads others post and give your input -don't be afraid if you say something that is wrong because you will be corrected and become a better player over it 4) be patient 5) read through articles/posts by the vet's like renton/isf/spoonitnow and don't be afraid to post a question in any old threads because if you bump it someone will surely see and be there to help out.

2. If you want to ban them, ban white people from being news reporters imo. Long live the vuvuzela's.

3. none

4. philly eagles. I used to watch football a ton back in the day when McNabb ran everyone off the streets with his fleet of 'not so famous receivers'. Then when Owen's came I lost interest and I guess he's all washed up in buffalo now? Or am I way off? I haven't been following it anymore but am always down for going to a game live. Philly had a solid team without TO imo. He seemed to disrupt their well put together team with his need for being the team himself. I think when a franchise takes on a player that cocky/self centered they run a serious risk of depreciating since it just screws with the dynamics alot. I'm no expert though this is just how I see it. Then after TO they changed up a lot with Vick (lol) and McNabb leaving so bleh...

If you could add one bannable offense to the list of FTR rules, what would it be?

M, you've missed out my questions!

Originally Posted by Carroters

Am I going to be the next Durrrr?

Would you rather be really angry all the time or really sad all the time?

When you were a kid what did you want to be when you grew up?

What's the biggest downswing you've ever had, what was it like?

1. no, you are the ever powerfully evolving carroters

2. really angry

3. an architect. one that designs real cool world class buildings - stuff that people are awed by, not just plain box type stuff.

4. 17-20 buyins (2 times). After 15 it felt really standard to just keep losing stacks. I guess it sucked but it made me question my play alot and I def learned from it/am a better player now because of it and probably have a lower chance of swinging so hard given that my tilt control is always improving as well as my raw poker skill/knowledge.

what is something that you do that you think would help me?

If redzilla had to be a different color, what color would you make him?

If i reach 3000 posts on FTR will that make me a baller like you?

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

If you could add one bannable offense to the list of FTR rules, what would it be?

if you post a hand where you fold quads, you shall be banned.

Originally Posted by reDZill4

what is something that you do that you think would help me?

I haven't played much with you so I'm not entirely sure.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

If redzilla had to be a different color, what color would you make him?

green fo sho

Originally Posted by amifat

If i reach 3000 posts on FTR will that make me a baller like you?

depends what use you make of those posts

If you could be one other human being for one day, you'd pick _____? Keep in mind if you choose a woman you're automatically gay.

Originally Posted by Illfavor

If you could be one other human being for one day, you'd pick _____? Keep in mind if you choose a woman you're automatically gay.

hmm

I'm not going to think about this long and give the first that comes to mind:

hugh hefner

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

I haven't played much with you so I'm not entirely sure.

I wasn't referring to something specific in my game or what you know of my game. I was thinking more in general. What is something that you do that you think I would benefit from doing as well?

Originally Posted by reDZill4

I wasn't referring to something specific in my game or what you know of my game. I was thinking more in general. What is something that you do that you think I would benefit from doing as well?

I get my source of omega-3 from juice.

What is better: A dead walrus or a sleeping demon?

Would you play poker if you could only play with slates of rocks engraved with numbers to represent cards and there was no interwebs?

Do you remember this song? YouTube - LFO

1) Why does the whole of FTR hate me?

2) Do you like me?

3) Why is spoonitnow underachieving?

Why does the whole of ftr hate easy?

If Iopq ended up being your baby what would you do, and would you ever reproduce again?

How long did it take you to move from a marginal winning player to where you are now?

Originally Posted by Carroters

What is better: A dead walrus or a sleeping demon?

Would you play poker if you could only play with slates of rocks engraved with numbers to represent cards and there was no interwebs?

Do you remember this song? YouTube - LFO

1. sleeping demon. no one wants a walrus dead, and you could find a way to kill the demon I guess if its sleeping.

2. of course. that actually sounds more fun.

3. haha, yep

Originally Posted by EasyPoker

1) Why does the whole of FTR hate me?

2) Do you like me?

3) Why is spoonitnow underachieving?

1. I dunno I think it has something to do with your sense of humor

2. I don't know you well, but I'm not one to hate

3. he has alot of things going on irl iirc that deter him from making it to higher levels in poker. you really need a clear head to play this game, even at small stakes. im finding it difficult to break into middle limits myself and by biggest worry at the moment is making sure theres always water at my desk.

Originally Posted by amifat

Why does the whole of ftr hate easy?

If Iopq ended up being your baby what would you do, and would you ever reproduce again?

How long did it take you to move from a marginal winning player to where you are now?

1. possibly because he is black. I haven't been keeping up with the BC as much lately so I don't see what goes on. I also mentioned a more serious answer which is just a guess in previous reply ^

2. I would probably just off myself

3. Well I'm not a big winner. Tilt holds me back from that. As for going from like tag fishy/aggro idiot to thinking more logically through my decisions I would say months of play and study. Tough question to answer because I am not sure how to define where I am right now vs where I was before other than I have made progress and can anticipate progress to keep on being made.

Q) Why haven't i posted on this thread until just now?

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

Q) Why haven't i posted on this thread until just now?

perhaps it is because you are incapable of coming up with a better question than this.

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

perhaps it is because you are incapable of coming up with a better question than this.

Did you just answer a question with a question?

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

Did you just answer a question with a question?

not sure, but if so I forgot the '?'

Fuckin jew

When you are you going to visit Oklahoma and tear up the live tables w/teh illest?

"When Oklahoma becomes Europe" lol

Also, why are the micro 2p2ers that get the most respect on that site all rbpros?

Originally Posted by Illfavor

Also, why are the micro 2p2ers that get the most respect on that site all rbpros?

I dunno, 2p2 is messed. It seems like everyone just takes shots at each other and has something to prove. So much of chirping goes on between break even 50nl grinders its pretty funny. There are literally guys with 5-10k posts that will never move beyond 50nl due to ego problems which cloud their view of looking at the bigger picture.

I think they might get a lot of respect because quantity seems to take presence over quality there. There's also too much leveling/ego tripping in every thread its really annoying. Just look at all the retarded replies to posts. They should find a way to start banning lots of people and downsize a bit, like make the rules stricter or something. meh.