You guys are taking it one step too far still.

I'm not asking for hands, I'm asking for ways to narrow down (or eliminate hands from) the range.

Frankly there are like 3 types of people (I wish I could think of better names for these people, hope these don't stick)

A. Total unknowns
---players who we have never seen play a hand nor have stats on
B. Relatively known
--players we have seen play a few pots or have 5-50 hands on
C. Marked players
--players we have played many hands with or have 50+ hands on

It is much easier to put Player C on a range of hands than players B, it's easier to put Player B on a range than Player A. Why? INFORMATION.

Unfortunately we are not always blessed with the knowledge that a certain villain is 20/15 over 400 hands. Therefore there must be ways to help us understand an unknown's PF hand-range. Here are just some of the factors I use:

{If anyone has anymore feel free to tell us}

1. Opponent's stack-size
--20bb, 33bb, 50bb, 62bb, 100bb+. All of these stack-sizes could give us a lot of information on our opponent's PF tendencies. What are some generalizations we could infer from these stack-sizes?

2. Opponent's opening size
-limp,2bb,3bb,pot,4bb,5bb+. All of these initial PF raise sizes could tell us a lot about our opponents. What are some generalizations we could infer from these opening raise sizes?

3. Opponent's position
-EP,MP,LP,Blinds. All of these positions could affect our opponent's hand-range. How do we feel each spot affects their range?

4. Re-raising and 3bet size
-An opponent's 3betting size could tell us a lot about them. What could we infer from different 3bet sizes?

The better handle we get on someone's PF range the easier hand-reading will become on later streets.

Before this thread goes further I want it known that this is not the only way to do this; however, I feel doing it this way will open up the most discussion and get the majority of the newer players into the conversation. Others are more than welcome to voice their opinion on this matter however I am not going to tolerate any more negative remarks. Posts attempting to derail the discussion will be split and deleted from the beginner's circle.