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 Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
 Originally Posted by Outlaw
Remember to define your hand more preflop.. then villains can guess less postflop.
ducy I fyp?
If you make a play that "defines your range" as you like to put it, then any competent villain should be able to play mistake free against you.
And before you 4-bet, think about what it does to your flop plan... There's really only 3 vil responses to think through...
1. He 5-bet/shoves over you. Now your playing 200bb stacks for QQ PF, as calling just a 5-bet will effectively commit you to the hand. This obv solves your position problem, but is QQ in your 200bb stack-off range vs. this vil?
2. He flats your 4-bet... and you get this board. What more do you now know about vil's hand? I'd suggest not much... except he's prolly in the upper part of his 3-bet range, you're probably in bad shape, the pot's bloated, and any flop bet from you pretty much commits you.
3. He folds. Congrats... your 4-bet folded out the part of his range that you would likely have been beating on this board. Yes, you took down the pot, but you also lost value vs. JJ or AK/AQ/AJ,KQ, etc.
IMO, none of these potential outcomes are good proof points for 4-betting...
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