Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
guys how often does an ep raisor have a fd here?
You're missing the point. If we call the flop then a club coming off on the turn or river is bad for us regardless of whether villain has a flush draw or not. Instead, we should raise since villain is unlikely to fold top pair for 60bb on a draw-heavy board.
but hes shoving 2/3rds of turns way behind, or is commited on 2/3rds of turns and we arent folding on a flushy board anyway.
Any time the board is drawy you have to be concerned about scare cards. Not all drawy flops are being drawn to, sometimes that scare card scares the opponent. You need to get the money in. Whether villain has the draw or not, the hand shuts down when the draw completes. I've seen plenty of guys fold with less than 1/3 PSB's remaining after a FD completes.