Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
Thank you, Jeff.

I have seen the 20:1 number put up for SCs before. I thought it was accurate until coming across what seemed to be good players playing them for less. So I wasn't sure. It seems your analysis is correct.
There are a number of reasons they could be playable beyond implied odds. If your opp 3-bets light, for instance, or much more if you are 3-betting light with them. They are going to hit some sort of a draw pretty often (which in a post 3-bet pot could be enough extra equity to let you make some moves that make your opp fold).

The same is true of Axs, only to some degree moreso, as you can also catch an A to beat half the hands in most 3-bet ranges.