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 Originally Posted by underminedsk
Originally Posted by Renton
ya at 50nl, I never call 4.00 raises heads up with 22-88, especially oop.
Are you serious? You are losing a TON of value here. I dont have Poker tracker, but I dont need it to tell me that I am still making a ton of money limp calling raises with low pocket pairs from EP at $400NL. And if its working there, then certainly it should work at $50NL.
Where do you play? Limp-calling a 4BB raise out of position seems -EV where I play.. (Prima 400NL)
Especially if it gets me HU versus the PFR.
So maybe it's better to just fold 22-66 in EP (maybe raise 20% of the time for Shania  ).
Originally Posted by Miffed22001
On other notes. If our limping in ep is noticeable then how often should we be playing back at tp type hnds anyway, even without a set. Just running a set-like line making sure we cant be called?
Good point. I sometimes do this as a semi-bluff. Maybe should this be used more against certain opps..
A bit off-topic, but.. (assuming tough opposition)
- Is it optimal to play only 77+/AQ+ from EP? Should the range be wider/narrower?
- Is it ever correct to open-limp any hand from any position (in terms of hand value, not in terms of meta-game purposes such as deception and 'mixing it up')?
Some random thoughts.. There seems to be a framework/model missing to give a good answer to these questions 
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