playing like a donkey

Why am i doing it?

I'm going up, down, up, down, up, down... Getting over confident, and trying to push people over.. get agro with nothing hands.. and i've busted my bankroll back to 1K....... sometimes i am that damn stupid.. i'm gonna have to move down.. ARRGHH fuck me and my stupidity..

not that i think anyof you will be able to help a great deal, i just had to say it to help get over how badly i played tonight. Tommorrow is a new day.. and i shall slap myself around a few times and get grinding

I blew 3 buy ins last nite on awful play. 1 hand i had TPTK out of position and got called all the way to the river against a set. The very next hand the same guy made *another* set against my over pair and took another buy in. After that i went on tilt and just lost most of the 3rd one in the next 30 minutes.

Today i'm taking the day off unless i feel like playing a MTT later, but thats it I hate down swings.

"Phase V: Here come the swings...
Since my skills are so awesome, I guess I can see a little more flops, and just fold if I don't hit 2 pair or better. Didn't you just see that 722 flop? Sometimes you gotta play garbage just for the slim chance of hitting that monster... I mean it only costs some change so see the flop anyway. Everyone else and their momma is limping in and catching miracle cards, aren't I wasting a ton of opportunities if I'm folding 70% of my cards before the flop? You play on for a few days, winning some, and loosing some, but your bankroll isn't growing anymore. Oh well, it's just that variance thing, the poker gods will be back on my side in no time."

i've read it before... and like i said, i dont expect anyone here to be able to help.. i really think it is a matter of my own self discipline. I just to exercise more self control and get over my impatience

May I suggest you're a very solid player that pays a little too much attention to his own cards, and not the cards of his opponents? From all your posts, it seems like this is where you get caught the most. "I have TPTK. This guy isn't gonna bully me". The real question is.. has this guy bullied at all up to this point? If the answer is no then his aggression is authentic. Your up, down, up, down will change into up, up, down, up with the proper reads.

I haven't lost a buy in against a better hand when I put all my money for about three weeks. I remember it was a slow played KK against my QQ on a rag board. That's just variance with a dash of deception. Granted I'm on a good run, but some of it has to do with reads. You'll get there. Study your opponents intensely. Go into a session with a mission to study the patterns and work off them. If you think someone has nothing then go over the top of them. If a player is solid then be careful.

Originally Posted by Rondavu

May I suggest you're a very solid player that pays a little too much attention to his own cards, and not the cards of his opponents? From all your posts, it seems like this is where you get caught the most. "I have TPTK. This guy isn't gonna bully me". The real question is.. has this guy bullied at all up to this point. If the answer is no then his aggression is authentic. Your up, down, up, down will change into up, up, down, up with the proper reads.

yes you are probably right.. When i'm playing well i play the players properly when i have crappy hands.. play up to their weakness and such.. but when i do hit TPTK i push it harder than i should... and hence go bust more often than i should... ahwell.. i'm moving back limit until i'm better bankrolled again.. it is all learning..

and thanks ron for all the advice you've given me.. seriously, ftr is great.. but your input alone has been absolutely awesome.. cheers mate.

Well, you took the first step - acknowledging you are the cause of you swing and posting here means you are serious about addressing it.

I don't know what your starting hands are but maybe just cut out some marginal ones for a bit - the junky ones played from the button or the SB. Those are the ones you are probably catching part of a flop on and pushing more than you should.

Rondavu is definitely helping everyone on here - thanks bro. I'm getting better at playing/reading players and weakness/strength post flop based on your guidance. I'm still pretty much camping but when I see a flop I usually take it down regardless of what I hold. I can go through a whole session and not get trips or AA/KK/QQ and still come out with a profit just by playing post flop better - not over aggressive - just smarter.

Sorry for the hijack - just wanted to give credit while it already being mentioned.

One of my milestones was becoming better at taking down medium pots in non action hands through weakness hunting. This allowed me to let go more when I had the worst of it in an action hand because I didn't feel like I was being denied a good profit by getting outplayed in this one action hand. I was ok with folding the winning hand here sometimes knowing that I would eventually grind the stacks around me down with longterm decision making.

The key to not committing yourself when behind in 1 or 2 action hands is not caring based on the confidence that you can outplay the same opponent in 4 or 5 other hands where they aren't as confident.

If you're in an action hand and fold the best hand, such as your AK is ahead of someone's KQ on a AJK9Q board, then you can be rest assured this opponent who made a huge river raise, and you folded to him, is taking risks which will eventually burn them when instead of AK you have AT.

When someone steals a big pot off of you, it doesn't come without a price. The price is they make a "will laydown" read on you and try it again sometime when you have a winning hand you decide to stand with. All is not lost in any circumstance. There's always another side. A different angle you can take advantage of. A way to be one step ahead of an opponent. It's a game of adustments, and whoever does the best job of adjusting comes out ahead. It's not necesarily the guy who stole one action pot off of you, unless he's making better adjustments than you. So I say concentrate on adjustments. It will have the effect of taking the emotion out of your game, and allow you to make sound decisions.

BIGandRICH, Mate, you're not alone. Hope it picks up for me like I am sure it'll pick up for you.

Originally Posted by biondino

BIGandRICH, Mate, you're not alone. Hope it picks up for me like I am sure it'll pick up for you.

I hope it picks up for you too, whether it will for me or not.. well we'll see.

My confidence is so ridiculously down at the moment that i've committed 2 months of my life to "relearning" poker.. but it will be good for me, i shall come out pwning..

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Wow, I was thinking the same way today. I'm new to having good fortune shine on me on a regular basis, however I do like you usually blow a good protion of my BR immediately after.

I blew my bankroll away in the last 2 days. Doing the same stuff as you.

At first I was blaming the poker gods but after studing and thinking about it I missed alot of reads and info along the way.

The idea of playing for hidden monsters is a bad idea. I found myself chasing big prflop raises with every body in saying " Wow, if I hit this hand I'm back and I have to hit one of these one of these times." Of course I miss the flop or worst catch a piece of it and get sucked into another call.

When your playing and winning you see everything. Spot the hidden flush or straight boards, check /call a hand down instead of head butting raise/reraise and saying "shit" I guess he wasnt kidding when he reraised me.

The biggest thing I think is like randevu (sic) said, being willing to lay down a hand instead of risking you stack. I call it playing HOPEFULLY.
hopeing your hand will hold up instead of KNOWING it will when you push or call.

Many poker pros have said their best hand of note are lay downs or calls not AIs.