Quote Originally Posted by shyguy03533
Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4
If you don't have the discipline to be patient when the money doesn't matter, what makes you think you have the discipline to learn all of the math/odds/patience/tilt control/metagame when the money does matter?

Not my fault you're not willing to focus and concentrate.
you kinda made my point even clearer. if im used to playing at .10/.25 or even .05/.10, and i move down to .01/.02 just for the hell of it, or i start playing a .10c tourney, why am I going to really sit and pay attention and try harder when my 5 hours of work in that tourney will make me come out with a dollar at most.

The higher the stakes, the more willing u are to pay attention because the more it matters and the more money is to be bought. You saying whut u just said in ur post is basically saying you have NEVER thrown away or penny, or seen a dime on the floor and not walked passed it instead of picking it up. The same applies for poker when it comes to someone playing at much higher stakes and then playing at lower meaningless ones.
Poker discipline and being a penny grubber are two entirely different and unrelated things. This argument is nothing more than a red-herring.

Instead of thinking as the amount of money in the pot being "oh it's only 32 cents, I call." You need to think of it as. It's 16bb and represents 25% of my stack in this case, and it's a really big raise, and I don't have a hand that's willing to go to war right now. I fold.

Instead of thinking of the limits as boring, instead think of the limits as different levels of professionalism.

You probably have to play in the middle school league and be successful in order to play JV in HS, you have to be successful in JV in order to be Varsity, and so on and so forth until you get into the Professional levels.

Patience is the 2nd thing you should learn as a pro player, right after where the fold button is. It's by far the most important tool we have in our belt.

In fact, You shouldn't play for real money until you can sit for 3 hours folding at free money stakes taking notes, making taking reads, and not thinking "oh god this sucks bawlz".

If you can play well when the money doesn't matter, the pro's better look out when the money does.