Quote Originally Posted by MSG85
MP3 has been fairly aggressive so far, I doubt he has much more than AK-AJ but AA-TT is possible. I raised there for info and to try to prevent him from seeing the turn, should I have raised more? The UTG + 1 raise is scary, should I be able to fold there? Is the turn call awfull?
It's funny how you say you "raised for info" but then totally ignored that ""info". I mean, we've had a (weak) bet, a raise, your minraise, and then another minraise. I doubt your jacks are good then. He reraised you.. isn't that the info that you are beat then? Or what kind of info were you hoping to receive?

About your minraise.. not only is "raising for info" bad, but minraising gives you no info either most of the time. A minraise almost always gives your opponent odds to call, so if he calls, then what have you learned? Nothing probably.

Basically you have to make a decision here on the flop. Do you think your jacks are good or not? Since you said you thought they were good, then either call and make sure more money goes in on the turn, or reraise properly. Pot is like $4, he raises over the minbet for $2, so pot is $6. Your minraise makes the pot $10 with him only having to call $2 to see the next card.

Overpairs are good for two things: When you lead the betting, and your opp follows, possibly on TP or a draw and pays you off like that. Or when you identify your opponent is someone who wants to dominate you (or the table on the whole) and overplays his hands. Then an overpair is a great way to 'trap' him and take his stack. But be careful, here he might very well have flopped two pair or a set or something..

It's never easy with these guys that play any two and become aggro at all times or seemingly random. You can very well get sucked out on if they flop 2 pair on their shit hand or something. Or be up against overpair because he just happened to receive a lucky AA/KK/QQ..

No read here. Should I be raising more preflop? Should I be folding to the turn raise?
Yes, raise more preflop, now you're giving him odds to suck out on you, which is probably what happened. Make it 2.5x to 3x his bet. So raise him around $2-$2.5.

And another minraise on the flop by you. After your minraise, he only has to invest $2 into what will be a $11.25 pot. Nice odds should he be on a draw of sorts. Again you have to chose.. you obviously think your hand is best here, so you either call and make sure more money goes in the pot on the turn, or reraise him properly. You have to raise over the size of the pot after his bet. So that is $5.25... so reraise him $6-$7 or something.

Now about the turn.. thing is, when they have TP or a draw (the hands that will be paying you off here) , they don't really slowplay it and then check/raise you.. you're practically pot committed here, but I think he has either a set or a made straight. The latter would mean he went in with Q9, kinda weird, so he has 88/TT/JJ is my guess. If you're lucky, QQ.. but that's about the only hand you are beating here.


Maybe check the flop for pot control? I'm lost in this hand.
Lol no.. you have AA! You have to bet, not control the pot. Maybe he has the Q. The fact that he calls on the flop and then leads the turn makes this possible. It may be a weak turn bet, but he's obviously not afraid on this board. Normally I'd say you have to raise him on the turn, but it seems to pot commit you. So you either have to push or do as you did, call, but that means you admit defeat and will be folding the hand to aggression on the river. Like this your play doesn't make much sense. Either you think your hand is good.. then raise him on the turn! Or you think he has the Q, in which case you want the showdown as cheap as possible, keep the pot under control and fold to too much aggression.

I mean, what will he have that you beat when he pushes the river do you think? AT? :P Totally unlikely that he's gonna push AT with QQ on the board there..