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    Default Overpair Fear

    WHen i have a pair like 10's or Jacks preflop and raise it and get a few callers, if the flop is all undercards, but somoene bets hard, i always fear someone protecting trips against flush draw, or an overpair. What is the probability that smeone has an overpair when i hold a high pair like J's or 10's and what should I do?
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    Chances are QQ-AA will re-raise preflop. A set is always possible so try to figure out whether they have it by raising them when they bet, then if they come over top of you, you're probably beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k8s
    Chances are QQ-AA will re-raise preflop. A set is always possible so try to figure out whether they have it by raising them when they bet, then if they come over top of you, you're probably beat.
    Would a set not just smooth call your raise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    Quote Originally Posted by k8s
    Chances are QQ-AA will re-raise preflop. A set is always possible so try to figure out whether they have it by raising them when they bet, then if they come over top of you, you're probably beat.
    Would a set not just smooth call your raise?
    Possibly. That's why you should be suspicious whenever the person doesn't fold.

    The difficulty here is that this line of betting from an opponent is identical to that of a semi-bluff. This means that on the subsequent betting round you have to choose between betting huge to protect the pot against a draw and risk losing a big pot to a set, or hedge against losing a lot to a set while potentially giving a discounted card to a drawing hand.
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    If I think a player is weak and will fold to a reraise (especially if they have done it before), I reraise at least 3x if I'm in decent shape stack-wise, regardless of what I originally limped with. They fold often enough that it is worth it, in my opinion, but you have to pull this move on the right type of player.
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    This is something that happens to me too.

    it's an 463 flop and raised preflop, someone who wasn't the PFR pots the flop. All I'm ahead of is a semibluff which should be checking raising or 77-99 and there are a lot of turn cards that do me dirty including all 7s, possibly 8s, Js-As, All spades.

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    A good peice of advice is to be weak tight on uniform boards... all you have is a pair, and the turn/river could easily break you.

    You also gotta think why someone would re-raise you 3x on a T72 board KNOWING you raised coming in, this is a crucial moment that seperates winners from losers.
    take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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    What if they raise when they are first to act. It could mean they are betting overcards to protect them from a draw or a semi bluff of sorts in which case you are well ahead in the hand.

    I was involved in 2 big pots with JJ. Both were all undercards, but when i got reraised on the flop from my utg bet, i became suspicious. I folded after the flop after i made a raise, and he reraised. He showed KK.

    ANother time however, soemone played it the same way after the flop except, he didnt reraise before the flop. I still opted to lay it down to be safe...He showed TT.

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