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[Carroters]

rpm, i think your analysis is pretty good as to how you're expoiting your villain's unjustified set mining in 3 bet pots and how you're changing your range to enforce his mistakes is awesome.

edit: another mistake i feel he's making here is not adjusting to my 3bets. he could start tightening his 3b calling range, or his opening range, he could possibly start 4betting wider, maybe JJ, AQs+ or even TT because i'm probably folding like 60% of my 3bets to against this guy, and AKs, AQs dont do TOO badly vs QQ or KK. i'm ranting again so i'll go back to school work.

Couple of things about this though. Villain definitely should stop calling with useless unplayable implied odds hands where there are little to no implied odds vs your range; agreed. However, he shouldn't neccessarily be tightening up his continuing range completely, but rather chopsing hands to flat Ip that are either A: having good equity vs your 3 betting range i.e are ahead. Stuff like AQo, TT - things that he can't felt profitably. Or B: have potential to flop equity to semi bluff with - exploit the fold equity he will have asa result of your 3 betting/c betting range being weak.

Also, instead of 4 betting TT and AQs, he might want to flat these sorts of hands a fair amount and instead incorperate some 4-bet bluffs into his range, using hands that aren't good enough to flat with and preferably have blockers to your nut hands. The reason for this is that if you're 3 betting pretty lightly, most of your range will be folding to a 4-bet the first couple of times since you wont be aware yet of the change in dynamic. It follows from this that your range for felting to a 4-bet is pretty tight since you assume villain is still 4 betting a strong range like [QQ+ AK] So if this villain wants to adjust by 4-bet/felting TT and AQs, he's going to find that he's pretty much only getting it in with poor equity and folding out most of the hands he's ahead of due to your perception of him piror to any change in dynamic.

Here's TT vs the range you're likely to stack off with preflop.


Hand 0: 33.654% 33.45% 00.20% 22911950 138060.00 { TdTh }
Hand 1: 66.346% 66.14% 00.20% 45304090 138060.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

And here's AQs

Hand 0: 32.063% 30.98% 01.09% 15911838 558540.00 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 67.937% 66.85% 01.09% 34340202 558540.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

So villain shouldn't be 4-betting these hands before there is an aggro preflop dynamic established because he will not be in good shape to get it in and can flat very profitably with both of these hands vs your light 3-betting range. It is therefore, bad to 4-bet call these and a total waste of potential equity to 4-bet fold them.

So we can conclude a better adjustment for villain to make while he still has the fit or fold passvie image is to incorperate 4 bet bluffs with things like Ax and Kx and to alter his flatting range so that it incorperates hands either that are doing well vs your 3 betting range (AQs + TT for example) or that flop more equity post flop like T9s 87s etc - these are far better vs a weak 3 betting range where there are less implied odds because he can flop draws, equity in different ways and raise your c bets profitably since you're still going to be c bet/folding a ton of flops in 3 bet pots since your range is weak.

Hope that makes sense. If you put yourself in villains shoes, the above seems like the best adjustment vs the light 3 bettor.