hehe, you know what I mean. Do you really need a program to help you bet based on pot odds at NL? How many decisions do you use pot odds for that a simple 4/2 rule can't provide? In NL the implied odds are so much more important for your betting and calling with Draws and non- made hands that the pot odds are not what you are using, are you? If I'm wrong, can anyone explain what we would need a program to do that we can't do ourselves when it comes to NL and pot odds.