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 Originally Posted by JKDS
His general point of raising super large when our opponent is never calling a raise except with a monster seems valid though...just not in the case were we're multiway on a somewhat wet board.
this.
like i said before i do not think that was a guide on how to play a monster hand, more a hand that was the absolute nuts that had been checked down and what should be done on the river in that situation. But i agree there are def pieces of the board that will give us value like you said 98 and shit like that.
anyway as i said i would do before, here is a hand where i was faced with a river situation similar to what he was describing (i think).
this hand is against a complete unknown, he had not played in the 3 hands before this, but looking at his stack size and his minbet preflop, i assume he is pretty fishy
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (CO) ($4.93)
Button ($5.24)
SB ($1.77)
BB ($5.20)
UTG ($2.53)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP1 ($5.12)
MP2 ($5.79)
MP3 ($3.86)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , K
4 folds, MP3 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.15
when he calls i have his range as Axs,ATo+, 34s+, j9s+,kts, kj+,22+, although i think he would 4b aa kk qq aks.
Flop: ($0.57) 5, J , A (2 players)
MP3 bets $0.57, Hero calls $0.57
not sure how to interpret the donk, against any thinking player i would assume it is for value but with someone who is a potential fish who knows? i think his donking range is probably diamond flush draws, Ax, TT, AJ, JJ, JT,JQ, 55, maybe J9s 88, 99, KQ, KT, KJ. So obviously i am ahead of that range so i call for another street.
Turn: ($1.71) J (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks
when the Jack falls i feel like the turn check is a trap. In hindsight i should have bet to price out all the draws out there but i felt like checking behind to keep the pot small.
River: ($1.71) 2 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.80, MP3 raises to $3.04 (All-In)
Total pot: $7.79 | Rake: $0.51
I actually am having a lot of trouble analyzing this river. When he checks i should probably have checked behind, i get value from Ax, and maybe 99 or TT, but thats it, all his missed draws fold for sure, and he maybe bluff raises. When he checks the river i take all the jacks out of his range.
As you can see, i bet .80, a little under half pot, and he raised me all in. Here i figure his range is pretty polarized by monsters and air. Monsters less likely because given the course of the hand i do not seem too likely to call much of a river bet at all and he checked it twice after the second jack hit. Seems more like missed flush draws to me so i called, he shows AThh and i win, but still it was a tough call, and id like to hear some more thoughts on the river if anyone would be so kind.
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