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    Default New Player Bad Beats. Why So Many Flushes???

    Hi,

    I can't get the hand converter tool to work for this hand so i'll have to put it in the long way i'm afraid. Sorry.

    I'm new to poker. been playing a week and I've played around 1500 hands. What i wanted to ask is how can i stop the bad beats. I'm for ever getting goodhands like trips or straights but getting beat by flushes. It's always flushes. Blow is an example. Should i have gone all in on the Turn to scare Villain away. Should i have folded on River. Could i have got away from this hand. I realise he's posibly got a flush but also i'm thinking he cold be bluffing. The more I Type the dafter my calling him sounds.

    I also see people look at 90% of flops and always manage to flop and hand. Where i'm seeing around 16% of flops and not getting a thing. I usually only look at flop for top 24 ranked hands. I've had people go all in with 63 off suit pre flop and i've had KK and they've managed to flop another 63 to beat me. I'm beginning to hate this game but i can't stop playing.


    ***** Hand History for Game 5420178816 *****
    0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Mon Nov 06 17:29:12 EST 2006
    Table Table 126532 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $1.64)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $1.96)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $2.04)
    Seat 4: Villain ( $3.17)
    Seat 5: Player4 ( $4.94)
    Seat 6: Player5 ( $8.20)
    Seat 7: Player6 ( $11.52)
    Seat 8: Hero ( $5.12)
    Seat 9: Player7 ( $3.98)
    Seat 10: Player8 ( $0)
    Player1 posts small blind (0.02)
    Player2 posts big blind (0.04)
    Hero posts big blind + dead (0.06)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Hero [ 7d, 6h ]
    Player3 folds.
    Villain calls (0.04)
    Player4 folds.
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Hero checks.
    Player7 calls (0.04)
    Player1 folds.
    Player2 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 8d, 5c ]
    Player2 checks.
    Villain bets (0.04)
    Hero calls (0.04)
    Player7 calls (0.04)
    Player2 folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4s ]
    Villain bets (0.33)
    Hero calls (0.33)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
    Villain bets (2.76)
    Villain is all-In.
    Hero calls (2.76)

    Creating Main Pot with $6.20 with Villain
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $6.20 | Rake: $0.30
    Board: [ 3c 8d 5c 4s 2c ]
    Villain balance $6.20, bet $3.17, collected $6.20, net +$3.03 [ Tc 8c ] [ a flush, Ten high -- Tc,8c,5c,3c,2c ]
    Hero balance $1.93, lost $3.19 [ 7d 6h ] [ a straight Four to Eight -- 8d,7d,6h,5c,4s ]
  2. #2
    The turn was your problem here.

    You hit your straight, awesome!! Just what you wanted. So why are you flat calling (especially with the flush draw out there). Raise it up!

    At least 3x his bet to go. The better players may tell you to push this I don't know. (I'm not one of them)

    You raise big because you don't want to let him have a free card to suck out on you AND since you limped this pot for straight value and you hit you must get as much of your money in to make up for the times when you miss.

    If he calls and he hits his flush thats poker. Possibly the reason you keep getting beat by flushes is that you keep letting villains have the odds to chase them.

    Remember the golden rule: Bet your strong hands and don't give players pot odds to draw to hands that beat you. If you have the nuts there may be an argument for slow playing but only if you think you can get all his chips that way.
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    Default Re: New Player Bad Beats. Why So Many Flushes???

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDazUK

    I also see people look at 90% of flops and always manage to flop and hand.
    No you dont. Dont be silly. You might see people look at 90% of flops but they miss the vast majority of them.

    1) Stop slowplaying

    2) Stop paying off after they hit.

    3) You want them to chase because when they chase and miss (which happens in the majority of cases) you get extra money. The downside is that 1/3 of the time they will hit and you will have to not pay them off.

    4) read everything in here and most relevent to your question read this.

    5)...

    6) profit


    goodluck
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    bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
  4. #4
    stop slowplaying your good hands
    value bet more

    keep playing tight
  5. #5
    I wouldve been tossing that hand on the flop. When you see that kind of a flop you have to think two of your outs are dirty, they put the thrid club on board. I don't like drawing here especially with a minbet on the flop and two people behind you. Also on the river, whats pushing here? an ace is doubtfull, so is a 6. At these limits they dont know what value is and id right away smell a flush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    lol
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    i just found the title of thread to be humorous.

    i guess if i didn't have anything constructive to say...
  9. #9
    Renton your sick.
    But gj on picking up on that lol.
  10. #10
    You will get sucked out on, no way to avoid it. But these stakes are almost trivially easy to beat for at least 30-40 ptbb/100. You want to see a lot of cheap flops with good multiway hands (limp and call small raises habitually preflop with pps and hands like 78o with discretion). Your implied odds are massive at these stakes as your hand showed ... villain overbet the pot with a flush draw ... push the turn, or at least a pot and a half raise because you will be called for a huge profit in the long run. Raise when you should preflop, and raise hard. Rarely less than 5xBB, always at least 1 1/2x the current pot. Don't get involved post-flop without a good hand. When you do get a hand, 3/4 pot minimum bet, but don't call off your stack to a huge raise without a very strong hand or a read on an idiot.

    Ignore the bad beats and notice what your opponents are doing. Then take their money.

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