Quote Originally Posted by aokrongly
That's cool wyldfoxx, i just wanted to give a chance to respond in more detail and not be a hit and run poster. I don't mind disagreement. I know the limits and faults of " chart" play as much as anyone else here. But I also know the benefits of discipline and consistency in a game that has mind numbing variance and frustration.
Thank you, AOK I appreciate your responce.

Quote Originally Posted by lambchopdc
...poker is that a system cant beat it. It is a game of incomplete information, and no system can beat such a game in the long run, period.
This is all I was trying to say. This comment was articulated. Mine was... not.


Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
Can a system beat a low buy-in table full of weak passive players (or whatever 45%, 25BB pot is)? I believe this is true. Is the system better than playing even intermediate poker? No, and no one should claim that it is.
As for this comment... This is why I was being a dick in my earlier post. No one should be "learning" off a chart. Because as a new player everything you do gets etched in your brain. For instance... let's say your trying to learn how to play chop sticks on the piano. If you play every note in chop sticks right except on,e and continue to play it this way say for years, then when someone shows you the correct way to play your brain won't go oh ok and start playing it correctly you'll have to "re-learn" the entire piece and it will be 10 times as hard. So my point was this... if you LEARN to play poker like a robot you'll NEVER get the feel for the game. It's like lambchoppdc said...
Quote Originally Posted by lambchopdc
It is a game of incomplete information...
To find the information you'll need to become a winning poker player, you'll have to experience it for yourself through trail and error.