Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
Quote Originally Posted by lambchopdc
And B. Those who believe that the WHOLE POINT of poker is that a system cant beat it. It is a game of incomplete information, and no system can beat such a game in the long run, period.
Some graphs, hand histories, results or something would be nice.
FMP


Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
Quote Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
Since the only thing AOK's disciples take seriously is a chart, here's one...
Actually blackjack can't be beat by a system either.
not even a complex system of checks and balances?
Umm, I don't understand your question.

Losses can be minimized with a system, but you're still loosing. I don't consider -eV = beating (so it was kind of a joke).

This thread is too heavy for me, I'm out.