1. >> There are plenty of fishy sites that conform to AOK's standards. You might not see them advertised on TV, or speak the same language as other players, but you can earn a good rate at their tables, which is what we are here to do.<<

I know these sites. Their software is terrible. Cashouts take several days. Multitabling is difficult.

2. Look, Party Poker is my litmus test for any strategy because it has the most table, most fish and most pros. Any system that can't even beat the 25NL tables at Party needs work. I think the reason it fails is that Party fish will raise with anything, thus forcing AOK's rocks off their hands.

In the interest of fairnesss, I actually think AOK's rock formula might hold up at Party Poker, given good table selection. But HE says it doesn't work, so who am I to question the master?

3. >>2. Phil Hellmuth is a tournament player<<

And Mr. AOK is a "professional" sit & go player who now plays about ten hours a week.

4. >> and from what I understand a notoriously bad cash game player.<<

He has the most carefully managed table image on the planet. I am not a follower of him by any means, but I just want to point out that he and AOK are barking up the same tree.

5. >> His system is irrelevent to this discussion, and it's merits are debatable.<<

Which means you don't know anything about it. It is much the same thing, except Phil actually expects people to THINK when they are sitting at the table, rather than c-betting to the rover.

6. Look, you're on the button holding KQs. One guy behind you raises 1BB. AOK would have you fold! Does that make sense to you??? Re-raise the guy! Or at least flat call! Why would you fold when you have good cards and position?

7. 3. QJ is not -EV. Your [broken] link says so.

On a ten-player full ring table, QJo loses money, except on the button and cutoff:
http://www.pokerroom.com/games/evsta...php?players=10

Ditto 9 players:
http://www.pokerroom.com/games/evsta....php?players=9

Remember, AOK says suitedness does not matter and is downright vague about position.

8. >>Criticize his system if you must (it is not optimal by his own admission), but there is no need to insult him.<<

I was around during the dot-com boom. I remember all sorts of self-proclaimed gurus touting the virtues of Pets.com and eToys on Internet forums and saw them lead people into bankruptcy and ruin as a result. AOK strikes me as that sort of personality.

AOK admits he sporadically his own system, perferring something called "counterplay," even though he is daring people to beat Performance Poker's results! Where is his track record at cash games? Will he post his hand histories?