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  1. #1

    Default need a line check on this hand nl10

    trying to isolate then folded to reraise

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($8.69)
    MP ($3.75)
    CO ($0.95)
    Button ($9.46)
    Hero (SB) ($8.09)
    BB ($8.38)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
    1 fold, MP calls $0.10, CO bets $0.95 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $8.38 (All-In), 2 folds

    Flop: ($7.05) K, 9, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Turn: ($7.05) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($7.05) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $7.05 | Rake: $0.47

    pretty sure standard fold
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    why 3bet pre? isolate with 99? i say its a call and if BB 3bet fold... just my opinion. i dont see a 99 to isolate pre and for sure not all in pre. to call a 10bb shove from a shorty is ok, but no 3bet. maybe i am wrong.
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    CO has already raised to 9.5BB all in, I would say there is no need to raise further with 99 OOP.

    You have to give reads on BB and CO and put them on a range.
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    ok i understand that but the limpers i dont feel are strong i dont want to go up against 3 people with 99 thats why i reraise, but when the limper reraised again then i know im beat, that was my thinking
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    MP by the stack and limp will call you with a pair my guess, and BB will fold all the crap and call only its best or 4bet his very best like he did. with 99 and calling CO 9.5bb shove, you need another guy in to make the call profitable if you hit. just the way i would think and play the hand, not neceserally right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by da da duhh View Post
    ok i understand that but the limpers i dont feel are strong i dont want to go up against 3 people with 99 thats why i reraise, but when the limper reraised again then i know im beat, that was my thinking
    There is only one limper and he did not reraise. It's the big blind who shoved over. The limper folded after that.

    What I am saying is that if the BB or the limper will call or reraise a 9.5BB raise, there is a good chance that they are strong enough to not fold facing your reraise. So what does your reraise achieve? Maybe a few better hands in BB's range like TT or JJ would fold to your reraise, but that's a vast minority of his range (any 2 cards BB when it is your turn to play). Also, most likely TT+,AK are not in the limper's range.

    Again, put them on a range and give us whatever reads you have.
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    Iso'ing the shorty looks good. Maybe reraise less, like 2x or so. Def don't want to put in a third of stack preflop and fold.

    MP's limp/shove is scary but sometimes he is spazzing. So giving him a range of AK and KK+, you're almost 40% and the pot odds are about 30%, so call there.
    Last edited by couriermike; 01-26-2011 at 09:29 AM.
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    Hello, I repeat: nobody limp-shoved here.
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    I'm with couriermike, I think about 2x (like $2) does the job just fine. Most of the time I'm feeling a fold here though.
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    no need to iso here with only the BB behind you , especially because he is not flatting behind here with marginal hands for 10 bb's. as someone posted before , an iso accoplishes nothing it might make BB fold TT, JJ but that's it
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    If he's loose, it wouldn't surprise me for him to call for 8.5 bb's, he's also likely to get position against us. If he's tight, I'm okay with flatting.

    Reads, as always, would be nice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    Hello, I repeat: nobody limp-shoved here.
    whoops!
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    gotta raise to 3$, that way when someone shoves you KNOW you're beat. LDO














































    lol but seriously wtf
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    Why all the confusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by da da duhh View Post
    limper reraised again then i know im beat
    Oh, that's why!
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