mp 78s flops good, turns more outs - 25nl

Originally Posted by kickass

Vs 2 villains, we have great equity now but I doubt when the river bricks and we chk back we're ever winning. So I don't care for that as a reason to bet anything. Are these guys likely to pay you off on good rivers? If not bet massive now if so bet smaller. I like smaller cos these guys are fishes and will prolly both call now, we can chk fold shit rivers, loosing the least and can make a good v bet vs 2 villains gettting at least 1 call on good rivers. 4-5 seems good.

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126,924 games 0.046 secs 2,759,217 games/sec

Board: 9h 6c 8s 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.808% 29.37% 04.44% 37280 5630.50 { 8h7h }
Hand 1: 25.396% 22.05% 03.34% 27990 4243.00 { 77, AhTh, A8s, Ah6h, K8s, QhJh, QhTh, Q8s, JhTh, J8s, T8s, 85s+, 76s, A8o, K8o, Q8o, JTo, J8o, T8o, 98o, 87o, 76o }
Hand 2: 40.796% 36.90% 03.89% 46837 4943.50 { 77, A8s, Ah6h, K8s, Q8s, J8s, T8s, 98s, 87s, A8o, K8o, Q8o, J8o, T8o, 98o, 87o }

Did not realize there is 3 villains. Now I am super happy to just bet big because we are NEVER behind 3way. Above is a bunch of to pair hands and flush draws that crush us +77 and not many 6x(65o may peel 2 etc.) If we start to include a bunch of 7x in both their ranges our equity goes up to 35%. This is GREAT considering we can easily take showdowns at the river v these passive fish. We get paid a HUGE % if we bink when they both call turn and the 3rd thing is we're already way ahead where we need to be(33.33% for a b/e bet without future streets).

I stilll cannot comprehend why we want to only bet sub 5$ and throw away a few bbs which obviously is not huge in this one situation that never ever comes up BUT will be huge if we make similar 4bb mistakes every few hundred hands.

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Did not realize there is 3 villains.

there are only two villains. regarding your comment about needing 33.33% or more (in a vacuum) to at least breakeven in a 3-way pot, doesn't this assume our opponents both call 100% of the time? is this something we need to consider?

Originally Posted by rpm

there are only two villains. regarding your comment about needing 33.33% or more (in a vacuum) to at least breakeven in a 3-way pot, doesn't this assume our opponents both call 100% of the time? is this something we need to consider?

we're flipping v 1 villain ldo? and by flipping I mean we are 55/45.