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  1. #1
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    Default More hands, good & bad (I think...)

    750 hand $10NL session. Ran 19/7/5.2. Ended up down $5... mostly from two AI calls against the same villain. The first one was stupid. This was the second one...

    Hand#1:
    Villain had about 20VPIP

    Ultimate Bet
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.05./$0.10.
    9 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $9.58
    UTG+1: $4.70
    MP1: $5
    MP2: $6.02
    MP3: $18.76
    CO: $9.85
    Button: $6.67
    SB: $9.64
    Hero: $10

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with Q A
    UTG calls, UTG+1, folds, MP1 (poster) checks, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $0.7, UTG calls, MP1 folds, Button calls, SB calls.

    Flop: Q 2 3 ($2.9, 4 players)
    SB bets $2.9, Hero calls, 2 folds.
    Got my shiny TPTK. See this bet as an attempt to push out flush draw. Put villain on KQ,JJ,TT,99 - maybe 22 or 33 but I'm trying to give up seeing sets everywhere when there's aggression...

    Turn: 9 ($8.7, 2 players)
    SB is all-in $6.04, Hero calls.
    I don't see how a 9 changes much relative to the flop. I call. Should I have assumed a two-pair or a set based on this push?

    River: K ($20.78, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $20.78)


    Results:
    Final pot: $20.78

    Hand #2:
    I'm happy with myself on this one.

    Ultimate Bet
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.05./$0.10.
    10 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    Hero: $9.95
    UTG+1: $1.90
    UTG+2: $5.09
    MP1: $9.74
    MP2: $4.31
    MP3: $4.17
    CO: $10
    Button: $12.75
    SB: $2.61
    BB: $5

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG with Q A
    Hero raises to $0.2, 3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.
    The raise was a misclick. Mean to raise to .40 but slipped...

    Flop: J K 9 ($0.85, 4 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.5, MP2 calls, CO calls, BB folds.
    Part cbet, but also like the SD, possible flush and still TPGK potential. So I bet 1/2 pot.

    Turn: 8 ($2.35, 3 players)
    Hero bets $1.2, MP2 folds, CO calls.
    Now have the nut 4 flush, plus still the SD & TPGK. Going to lead out like I mean it again.

    River: 5 ($4.75, 2 players)
    Hero bets $3, CO folds.
    Uncalled bets: $3 returned to Hero.
    Old me would have folded this. New figured a) I got a sh!t load in the pot, b) I've bet consistently through the streets so villain should assume I have something, c) he's going to expect me to check with a busted draw and d) he's shown no aggression. So put a real bet in and it worked!

    But seriously... was this too loose? I'm not real comfortable leading OOP w/ air...


    Results:
    Final pot: $4.75

    Hand #3:
    Only thing I can think here is pot-size bet on the turn? Plus should I have read his River min-raise as having the made flush?

    Ultimate Bet
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.05./$0.10.
    10 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $11.95
    UTG+1: $3.74
    UTG+2: $6.11
    MP1: $4.97
    MP2: $11.22
    MP3: $11.12
    CO: $4.02
    Button: $20.39
    Hero: $9.24
    BB: $9.53

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with Q J
    UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

    Flop: 3 J 7 ($0.6, 6 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.1, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises to $0.5, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

    Turn: Q ($2.1, 3 players)
    Hero bets $1, UTG calls, MP2 folds.

    River: 8 ($4.1, 2 players)
    Hero bets $1.5, UTG raises to $3, Hero calls.

    Results:
    Final pot: $10.1

    Thanks in advance!
  2. #2
    hand 1 you should definitely raise the flop, most likely a push.

    hand 3 I don't get. You went for a check-raise, but then didn't make it nearly big enough, especially with the caller between you and the bettor. I don't know that I like a check-raise on this board with TP Q kicker, but if you are going to do it, raise more.
    The turn needs a bigger bet as well. Less than 1/2 pot with 2 opps, a flush draw and a straight draws out is just bad. Especially if you intend to put more in on the river.
    FWIW I usually pay off the min raise on the river.
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    Hand 1: TPTK is a tricky hand to play, albeit from my experience. See it as a hand with very litle chance of improving (unless turn/river pairs your TP or your TK). Try not to bet a lot of monies everytime you have TPTK, specially against such a dangerous board.

    Hand 2: NH. Welcome to NL.

    Hand 3: Depending on reads, like {Villains plays any two soooooooted}, I may check/call a tiny bet, no more.
    Better play would be to 3~4x his bet on turn.

    Also, try raising QJs from time to time pf. TP is very dangerous in family pots.
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