oh and just for triple post's sake, i think raise/folding pre is absolutely fine if we don't think we have setmining odds. if we develop some read that he is 3betting a polarised range and is likely to fold more than 66(ish)% to a 4b then sure we can pick a part of our opening range to turn into 4b bluffs, though for me that wouldnt include small pairs. i am really not a fan of open limping anything in LP because we want to give ourselves the initiative - this gives us more ways to win the pot with a given hand and increases the EV of that hand/our range. also, it's highly unlikely this guy is 3betting us frequently enough to warrant such drastic adjustments as are mentioned in this thread. just because he's bluffing some of the time doesn't mean we have to 4bet him this time. we have a whole range of hands we can pick and choose from to destroy his weak 3bets. no need to take the worse part of that range (for this job) to war