Quote Originally Posted by midas06
In games like Stud it's easy to see that your outs are bad. In HE, do you have to assume that some of your outs aren't good?
depends on preflop action. i hate playing unraised pots because everybody could have virtually anything (i've been in a situation where my nut flush went down to a boat made on the river b/c i refused to believe anybody would play q2 from midposition.)

if 2 people call a 3xbb raise utg & i'm in last position w/ 56s, i'll usually put 2 ppl on high card & one on a pp hoping to hit their set. if 3 people call a 2xbb raise in second or third position & i'm the one holding 56s, i have to assume some of the folks in front of me are playing suited connectors too & my open-ended on the flop is not drawing to 8 outs after all.