I am not saying that they do better than AA,KK,QQ ect... But far better than what is being spoken here. I have 108,000 hands of NL in my poker tracker. And if you think 89s is a crap hand in a NL cash game. Than you are not playing the hand correctly. I am not saying play it from UTG, but there are spots where it is the perfect hand to play and take down a big pot. But thats just my opinion.