Check this thread; this is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...c.php?p=529021

If the AK couldn't be folded that spot, was this a cooler? Is it possible to actually gain much EV over the rest of the field in situations like this?

Here's another couple of examples: I have 67s, I raise preflop in MP, my opponent has A2s and calls on the button and the flop is 345. All hell breaks loose.

Or, a slightly less cold one: I raise 98s preflop, the SB calls, the flop is 986, and we both get it in. He has 86.

Now, in all of these situations, I win the pot and think LOL I WON A BIG POT I PLAY GOOT.

When, in fact, I'm getting the feeling that these hands are all, pretty much neutral EV. Sure, we've gained a few physical buyins, but if we'd get it in with our opponent's hands, then there's no actual gain in EV (Or maybe I mean Sklansky bucks, I'm not sure) whatsoever.

So the question is, how can we make this situations profitable? Is one of these big pots actually any more +EV than when we c-bet a single flop in a 7BB pot?

How do we gain value and edge in these pots? Is it at all possible without turning into a complete nit and losing shitloads of value in other hands?


Anyway, I apologise if my terminology is wrong, please correct me as you go.