I don't play FR but I do disagree strongly with the notion of overlimping A8s IP vs an unknown. IP I don't ever have a range for overlimping vs one limper. In 6max this would be a really standard isoraise, I don't know much about an unknowns UTG limping range in FR but if I don't feel comfortable raising then I'd fold basically. But raising seems fine. We have position and initiative.
In the second example, say villain is 35/5 and openlimps. Without getting into how his pfr range might be distributed, we can comfortably assume him to have a top 35%ish hand. When the other guy posts he can have atc, and further, when he elects not to raise, we can presumably eliminate at least premiums from his range. Basically readless we can assume him to fold a lot more often than the 35/5 limp guy.



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