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    Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (8 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (MP2) ($5.45)
    CO ($3.72)
    Button ($3.92)
    SB ($1.68)
    BB ($2.20)
    UTG ($3.08)
    UTG+1 ($3.81)
    MP1 ($12.76)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
    BB calls $0.04, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12, 2 folds, BB calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.40) 10, 10, 2 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.28, CO raises to $0.68, BB calls $0.68, Hero folds

    Turn: ($2.04) K (2 players)
    BB checks, CO checks

    River: ($2.04) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.68, 1 fold

    Total pot: $2.04 | Rake: $0.13


    i know this might be a bit results oriented, but did i screw up here? fd on board, as well as a possible set of tens, i cbet flop, lp raises, and ep calls, i figured at least one of them definitely had a ten

    perhaps it would have just been better to check flop?

    what do peeps think about this hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorkion View Post

    i figured at least one of them definitely had a ten
    3 players in on a paired board, its 26% that one has a ten.
    The raise too, nice fold.
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    I'd say looks pretty standard. My opinion is you made a good disciplined fold.
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    Jebus, is this a lvl? Only pocket tens beat you why the f!@k are you folding?
    Last edited by Openside; 07-08-2011 at 10:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Openside View Post
    He has a boat; kings full of tens. Bet turn, bet river. As played jam over the top.

    I thought so too, take another peek. Im lolling

    edit. in before you peek again
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    Quote Originally Posted by celtic123 View Post
    I thought so too, take another peek. Im lolling

    edit. in before you peek again
    fuck i am retarded. He folded the flop. Sorry Zork.
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    flop fold is fine. Maybe make it more Pre if people are trying to seea lot of flops.
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    something is seriously, seriously wrong with the BC if the thread concensus is that this play is anything but fucking retarded

    where is spoonitnow to put some retards in their place when you need him to?

    YOU'RE FOLDING FLOP TO A FUCKING MINRAISE? get over it, fucking snap one off, are they never raising flush draws, JJ, QQ, or some other shit hand impossible to get value from worse?

    yes you are being results oriented. this line happens a great deal with non-Tx hands ESPECIALLY at the level you are playing.

    you need a mad read to fold here.
    Last edited by Penneywize; 07-08-2011 at 12:06 PM.
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    i know, stay classy penneywize, don't change etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penneywize View Post
    YOU'RE FOLDING FLOP TO A FUCKING MINRAISE? get over it, fucking snap one off, are they never raising flush draws, JJ, QQ, or some other shit hand impossible to get value from worse?
    +1

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorkion
    what do peeps think about this hand?
    I've thought it sucked since I first read through it.
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    How is folding the flop not the correct play - hate life on the turn when you make the correct play on the flop though
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    idk if anything has changed in BC, Penny... people still give badly informed advice without backing it up with reason.
    How about you give CO and BB a range and then you try to justify calling again? The only way I can imagine this being a call is if we're facing two super weird mega fish villains.
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    Why are you folding a spot where you would have turned the nuts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    Why are you folding a spot where you would have turned the nuts?
    Lol, I guess a few of us missed this important piece of info.


    Flop: ($0.40) 10, 10, 2 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.28, CO raises to $0.68, BB calls $0.68, Hero folds

    “Right thoughts produce right actions and right actions produce work which will be a material reflection for others to see of the serenity at the center of it all”

    Put hero on a goddamn range part II- The 6max years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    Why are you folding a spot where you would have turned the nuts?
    More lol coz I'm so dumb.
    “Right thoughts produce right actions and right actions produce work which will be a material reflection for others to see of the serenity at the center of it all”

    Put hero on a goddamn range part II- The 6max years

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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    The only way I can imagine this being a call is if we're facing two super weird mega fish villains.
    The biggest problem with this thread is no stats or reads on the villains.

    If it were heads up I'd prolly fold but I think the call by the BB will put in enough dead $$$ for us to peel one.

    Edit: That would prolly change if the OP post stats that both are super nits or some BS like that.
    Last edited by Shotglass; 07-08-2011 at 06:56 PM.
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    The problem is not so much the flop equity but rather that we end up oop with no clue how to continue and our hand face up. I really dislike that OP posted the rest of the hand cos we see that CO had something completely retarded, and that we would have filled up.

    OP, the reason you don't have any reads on the villains is beause you didn't take down anything in this hand either.
    Spend less time thinking OMGFOLDEDBOATONTURN!!! and more time taking down that CO gayraised the flop on an airball multiway and gave up when called.
    Last edited by oskar; 07-08-2011 at 07:23 PM.
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    agreed. He should have stopped the HH at his point of decision OTF; not an OMGWTFIFOLDANDTHISSHITHAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    hmm..well tbh, i posted the entire hand because i was lazy, and didnt feel like trimming it.

    i did take note of co's action, but thats not info i had at the time. also, cake poker =/= stats, unfortunately. i just meant to get an idea of whether the flop fold was decent or not.


    oh, sorry, i mean, OMIGODIFOLDEDTHEFLOPBUTIWOULDHAVEHITABOATLOLLERSKA TESONLINEPOKERISRIGGED



    i really dont get why its such a big deal that I posted the entire hand. if you cant be objective while analyzing hands, then how are you supposed to be objective at the table?

    as it is, turn came a K. still would have posted the hand if it wasnt.
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    Almost never folding this, except vs Doyle Brunson. I also feel that villain in these limits in position is capable of doing this with wide range of crap like AA-88, Ax, Tx, 72, flush draws, thus making your life miserable with any mediocre holdings.
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    personally im not folding.

    ?wut
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    The problem is not so much the flop equity but rather that we end up oop with no clue how to continue and our hand face up.
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