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 Originally Posted by DanAronG
By calling pre, are we simply playing for set value or hoping to get a cheap showdown?
Well, not necessarily either. By calling, we accomplish a few things:
1. We don't turn our hand into a bluff because IMO (and this is huge that it's just MY opinion and better reads could definitely change this) he won't continue if we 3bet unless he has QQ+/AK SOMETIMES JJ and rarely TT. I play more tightly until I have a better read he'll be flatting with more than those hands.
2. It strengthens our flat calling range. This is the part where it doesn't necessarily mean we need a cheap showdown. By shoring up our preflop calling range, we are able to play a bigger pot postflop because we now have a stronger hand compared to our perceived weak range. Do you get that? I feel like I can't explain that well.
Also, I wouldn't donk this turn and him raising is a clear fold because the turn hit our range pretty well and he doesn't care (full houses/quads/Tx/QQ+...but mainly full houses/quads/Tx).
However, I think donking this turn is not something Tom would actually do for value and I personally would raise this a lot as a bluff. I don't think most 10NLers would do that though.
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