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    Villain's total starting range is ~57%, so Hero can over-limp IP with ATC for value. (Assuming everyone else folds and Hero's HU against this villain. Clearly, this is not the case very often, so there is no reason to let this villain's starting range have too great an effect on yours, except in BvB situations. Limping IP is verboten in my book, so my ranges haven't really been affected by a single fish on my right unless it's folded to him, then I can basically always raise him (but that would be obvious, so I'd just widen my ranges being conscious of who's left to act behind).

    Villain limp/folds 57%, or has a FTC ratio of ( 57%/(1 - 57%) = ) 1.3. So basically, Hero can raise ATC as a bluff PRE based on fold equity alone.

    When Villain limp/raises, Hero can only reasonably 4-bet jam for value with KK+, as Villain's 2% 3-bet is { JJ+ } or { TT+ } at the widest or { KK+,AK }. With these hands in Villain's range, he is quite likely to be willing to stack off on most boards, so there's no reason to be jamming PRE. In fact, there's no reason to be raising pre, because Villain folds too much and Hero wants to play post flop IP against Villain with Hero's best hands.

    Villain's limp/call range is basically any 2 suited cards, any PP, any double broadway, and a lot of OSC and offsuit 9x, where x>9.

    equilab
    Hand range with equity greater than 50.00 %:
    { 33+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J9s+,A3o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo }
    According to equilab, you can raise to ISO ridiculously wide against Villain's limp/calling range. That's over 30% wide, and for that you get a whopping 50% equity, which is way more than you need against this guy PRE.

    With 33% fold to C-bet OTF and 75% fold to C-bet OTT, that's only (66% * 25% = ) 16.5% (~1/6) of his hands that he sees a river with, so I don't know why you're afraid to fire 2 barrels against this guy as a bluff when your hand lacks showdown value. Better still might be to check behind OTF and fire your C-bet bluffs OTT. See how he reacts to that. If he still folds 75% of his hands, then bluff like a mad man OTT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    With 33% fold to C-bet OTF and 75% fold to C-bet OTT, that's only (66% * 25% = ) 16.5% (~1/6) of his hands that he sees a river with, so I don't know why you're afraid to fire 2 barrels against this guy as a bluff when your hand lacks showdown value.
    It's not a matter of fear, just confusion - i've always been told "don't bluff the fish", so his preflop and flop tendencies seem contradictory. And OTT is a 4 hand sample.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Villain limp/folds 57%, or has a FTC ratio of ( 57%/(1 - 57%) = ) 1.3. So basically, Hero can raise ATC as a bluff PRE based on fold equity alone.
    i don't understand this - can you explain a bit more plizz?
    don't want no tutti-frutti, no lollipop

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