[quote="jackvance"]
Quote Originally Posted by Anosmic

Revenge is a dish best served cold. Not steaming.
Hm, what is there to say here? He tilted and stuck to his bottom pair.. ehm.. I mean, it's super obvious from your play you missed the flop and hit on the turn.. weak half-hearted c-bet, and then an ace shows up and suddenly you gain the confidence to almost bet the pot?


[quote="jackvance"]
Quote Originally Posted by Anosmic
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It's only "super obvious" because you know what my hole cards are.
Heh, you may think that but I've seen this betting pattern so often that I know what it means. If you didn't hit on the turn, you have either continued with a weaker bluff, or checked, am I right? It's not too uncommon in my games that I know what my opponents have because these betting patterns tip me off



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OMG Jack you annoy the hell out of me. Do you know how much you're abusing the idea "knowing" what your opponent has? You're looking at this guys cards face up and maybe he played it like you would expect someone to. But there are a lot more levels of thinking in poker than you seem to think. You're not the only person who can figure things out. Even shitty poker players know that they don't want to be figured out so they'll do wierd shit all the time.
If you're gonna put so much trust in your ability to "know" what's going on you're gonna get owned. You need to start thing about probable ranges of cards, and you need to start having thought patterns like "Well with that play [bet/check whatever] I believe that X% of the time he has what he's represnting and y% of the time he's mixing things up/setting up a table image/trying to get paid off by overrepresenting a hand and trying to induce you to "call his bluff".
For the most part poker is not about KNOWING, And things being obvious. It's about things being probable. Unless of course the cards are face up.
To say that you know how 10NL and 20NL players play is to say that you're a narrow-minded poker player with a lot of downswings coming his way and an inability to move up to a level where most of the players are thinking in unique ways.