Quote Originally Posted by jackvance
Ah, well this makes sense yes, but this doesn't warrant that you are disproportionally afraid of low-odds occurrences.
And again I know what you are saying, yes there is a low chance of a flush draw. My main point is that there is also a low chance that slow playing will increase the chance you have of stacking your opponent. If they are getting it in on the turn, they are most likely getting it in on the flop. Yes, the ace may be a scare card to them, but they didnt think much of the aggression on a turn 8d. Yes, some players need to sense weakness before they bet, but your hand isnt that strong to begin with, there is no reason not to raise this incredibly weak bet, or bet it if you are checked to.

Quote Originally Posted by jackvance
If you have AA and the flop is J72.. does this mean you'll stop betting because your opp might have a set? If you standard bet 2/3 pot here, would you do the same if you saw that his hand was 77?
You dont "stop betting" and I never advocated to stop betting in this hand because I was worried about a flush. I said to bet your hand for value and to protect against a draw. If you knew your opponent had a flush draw, then it would be a mistake to check. Can we agree on that?

Your example is a very different situation altogether. If we have a specific read that our opponent is on a PP preflop [based on more than the general assumptions used in this thread, maybe a limp/call from EP from a player who only limps in EP with PPs] and then face aggression when using our standard play on the flop, it would be correct to fold against somebody who doesnt typically show this aggression. If you knew he had a set, it would be incorrect to bet at all, but you dont know if he has a set without betting, so most would agree that it is not a mistake to bet here.

In this thread there is a flush draw on the board [we dont have to do any guessing about what draws are possible] and you have TPTK, this isnt the spot to slowplay because of any of the hands he could have, which include a flush draw [albeit somehwat unlikely]. A raise here should be standard both for value and for protection. I still dont see how a slowplay would be more profitable in this situation as opposed to a "standard" play.