Quote Originally Posted by AFchung
pot becomes bloated by the turn value bet if we make one. does this commit us to calling a shove regardless of river?
yeah this is why i checked. there's no way im betting the turn like $9 and folding to less than a min raise or folding getting like 5:1 on the river in this case if we bet earlier.

betting the turn sort of turns our hand into a bluff unless he's a station and will call down Jx flush draws or like TT anyway, and checking back gives him a free card. when the turn came I had no idea what to do based on this since I know nothing about the guy.

this hand actually would have been easier to play if I didn't 3-bet preflop (in hindsight of course).

Does anyone like overshoving flop? lol