Last follow up on this subject for me, and perhaps i am wrong and not seeing how his advice fits, but I will take one more stab at it.


After reading the ENTIRE (it took forever) thread on twoplustwo. Most people are concerned with the pot odds when they feel they are down in the pot. Which is very important - don't get me wrong.

Most good players know when people are chasing. What I feel is more important is not giving the correct odds to call when you are ahead. (in lower limit games)

In limit, it can be impossible to do that. Which is one reason I shun from limit games. Yet, seasoned players will know when the are beaten by a chaser. At that point they will check/call down or check/fold. New players do not.

In higher limits, maximzing your pot when you win, and minimzing your losses is key.


Odds are a great thing, but a machine can NOT beat a limit holdem game. It is a machine type game although.

Pot odds is a huge factor in limit holdem, but if you don't learn how to fold it doesn't matter. And in 2/4 and up games online, how often do you see a pot with more than 4 people in it preflop (10 handed that is)?

The average is almost always around 40%, and when it is higher you assume what - fish are there

Just my thoughts