Quote Originally Posted by Waggho
The flop situation is the very reason you should fold J4o preflop. So, you hit a jack on the flop, then what? With a good kicker, you have a hand to protect, to reraise with and get the drawers out. But with a weak kicker, you are forced to be weak, so you play it like most people would play a draw. It´s just that you don´t have a draw. And while the cards fall, somebody else hits his draw, like in this situation, and because you don´t have a good enough hand to raise with, you´ll never know where you stand. It just sucks. You get the worst out of two worlds: The weak betting of the draw and the draw fear from the TPTK. It just sucks. Fold it preflop!
sometimes i find that playing J or Q raggy hands in late position or from the blinds can be profitable, sometimes because if you flop two pair someone may have KJ, JQ, KQ or something like that if there hasn't been a preflop raise. they will then bet it out and you can get them to lose their stack