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Originally Posted by dudeman
All right so this'll be my first post on this forum, so let's make it an impressive one, shall we?
we shall see
(note: not sure if this is the right section, please move if it isn't. I searched for the keywords " rush, poker" and did not find any actual strategy guide for rush, so here's my amateur attempt to help people get start on it.
not a good start really , i typed "rush poker" into the search box and came up with 169 posts some even titled rush poker.You say that this is how to win at rush poker. Can you back that up ? have you said at what stakes? Have you shown an impressive graph showing your winnings or posted your stats showing winrate?
I will not necessarily be ordering these by importance, they will just be the ones that come to my mind first.
1. Rush poker will always have you playing with a different table of players (which you may have encountered before) after each hand. This makes HUDs (as far as I know) impossible, and note taking difficult as one has to go into hand history every time they want to make a note. Rush poker strategy basically employs an ABC game .. with a few twists. One can always hit quick fold when the hand doesn't look that good, and a lot of people don't want to wait around just to play average hands, so almost all of the players are playing supertight. obvious. But they're also playing very aggressive, because only a select few will actually remember a hand with you if, by chance, you play a hand with them again, or even rarer, will makes notes on you, so most will be very aggressive. When this is the case, one has to step out of the crowd and play a different style which will result in successful poker playing.
great start ....describe the game but then instantly show how litte you know about rush by saying that huds are impossible to use and note taking is difficult. I already showed you in a previous post that huds have been working ( and have been virtually since rush poker arrived) which makes the rest of this point a lot of rubbish). Whilst playing against an opponent if you want to make a note on a guy get the note box open (tilt or hud one) while you are making your river decision and the box will stay there ready to make a note. Whats so hard about that.?
2. Position matters a lot more now; the small blind has the ability to quick fold, so if you find it folded to you and you're BTN or CO, raise 2.5xbb with about 90% of your hands, and you will almost always steal the blinds. The SB will generally not be fucked to wait until it comes to them, so most of the time they just quick fold. the BB, on the other hand, will actually be looser in this position. This is because they can't quick fold, and can only do so when someone raises. So when it gets folded to you, and you raise, they are more likely to 3bet you or call, just because they're thinking that " well I've waited around for this long now I might as well play it". If you get re-raised by the SB though, only call it with AQ+, QQ/ JJ+, because if they've waited all that time to reraise you from the worst position with the BB still infront of them, they probably have a good hand.
You are relying here on your misconception that you can only play 1 table , add extra tables and people can then play there blinds much more conventionally. The better players aren't quick folding to get a new hand they are assessing the value of playing that hand or not.
Position also matters because most of the money made in RP is from c-betting. You will generally be playing HU due to how tight the play is, so simply c-betting around 60% of the pot when appropriate will have then folding almost all the time. If they call, they could either be slow playing a set or a top pair. They expect you to fire a 2nd barrel, so if you do, make sure you have a reasonable hand and evaluate the situation for bet sizing. If they call again, and you still have nothing decent, do not cling on, it's not worth it. Good thing is, if you're in position and they checked it to you, you can safely check with a bigger chance of winning with face-high cards if they were playing loose- passive. But then again that is unlikely.
"make sure you have a reasonable hand to barrel, if they call and you have nothing decent check behind and hope they are loose passive." Theres so many contradictions there . You're telling us they are playing tight aggressive and you're barreling, in the hope that they are loose passive calling off with air???
3. As everyone is always going for the premiums, you should try and play your suited connectors as much as you can. You can easily double up the fish with AA with 75s on a 468r board. But take into account their stack size, position, blahdeeblah to evaluate the situation and decide if it's worth calling their 3-bet. Also, if there are 2 players in the pot, this makes the situation a lot more profitable, as they will generally think that if you shove on such a board that you almost always have a pocket pair, a set or AK, AQ etc.
Do you know your equity with 67s vs premiums?.I'd love to see your maths to justify calling a 3bet with 67s. You seem to be assuming that people will stack off with AA vs a semi coordinated board and a shove.Are you aiming to steal the pot here or get streets of value from the AA?
4. I've found that you have a bigger chance of stacking off the villian if you let the time almost run out when you have a monster on the flop. With no reads on you, the villian will generally think that you are having trouble deciding whether to call with a marginal hand or not and will happily bet more than they would normally if you snap called them. This is even more effective when you hit your straight/ flush with low/mid suited connectors, because the rush will generally cause a player to c-bet the turn even more in hopes that they're still ahead or to force you out of the pot.
yet again you show yourself to be ignorant. you take that line because of you not realising how to take notes and is one of the misconceptions amongst low level players that taking a long time indicates weakness.Move up in stakes and opponents will become suspicious and once they've seen you do it it will be noted.
5. Because rush poker is just one table, you can always leave the table when you double up and buy back in for 100bb right after, which is not like the normal NL cash tables where one must buy in to their previous stack size or wait for 30 minutes or so for it to reset. This is good, because Rush Poker is quite a high variance game, and involves a lot of bluffing, so it's a good idea to limit your losses if you do have a bad beat by leaving and buying back in every time you win a reasonable amount of bb's. Of course you can play deep stacked in RP, but I don't like it because, without reads, stack sizes are a lot more important when it comes to feesh determining if they should shove or not. Shoving with round 100bb is much more likely to get called than if you shoved with 200bb, because many people playing deep tend not to risk their cash in such a way. I may be wrong, but that's just the way I see it.
so you're a ratholer. Why don't you learn to play better so that you can play deep stacked and improve your winrate.Use your hud and make notes and all of a sudden you have reads.Earlier on you are saying that everyone is playing strong ranges aggressively .....now you are saying there is a lot of bluffing ...
6. When you hit the premiums, get the manies in fast.
I will be updating/finishing this in the near future, but for now I have other school stuff :P.
Maybe you could address some of the points i have made.
@Keith: orly? Damn I need to get un-IP-banned from there on my PC .. I' m currently playing on my laptop as I was IP banned for chip dumping.
surely if you were banned for chip dumping ( which brings into question you ethics and further casts doubt on your experience) your account was closed. Now you are saying that you are still playing at Full tilt which implies that you are now operating against Full Tilts TOS and are multi accounting and liable to have your funds seized when FTP detect you.
this is the reason for shotglass's "nuff said".
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