How to exploit a standard TAG

Ok, so in this thread members are going to post stats they have on the typical villains you will meet at the tables like nits, tags, lags etc. Hopefully with somewhat decent sample sizes so we can create adjustments and justify why they are correct, to help us maximally exploit our opponents.

I think in each case it will be most beneficial to consider being in and out of position, creating adjustments for both instances vs the same villain.

Once we have covered the general villain types people could then post specific villains that are giving them bother at their stakes possibly a decent reg for example, also i don't think we should post screen names.

Somebody post some stats and get this show on the road.

Tag stats from 621 hands

Ok shall we start with when we're IP? I suppose we're analyzing this in a vacuum on some level because we are ignoring all the other players left to act behind us and their tendencies but this will do.

I am not to familiar with HUD's so i can'f figure out some of the above.

Vs this general tag 14.7/12.7/6.3/2.6/4.7

If we're IP (ignoring other players) i'd cold call alot wider because he doesn't seem to be firing to many flops with air, so when he checks we can put ina profitable bluff say 1/2 pot or less because we're getting so many folds. Also if he calls OOP Cbetting all our value hands, draws and a fair amount of air due to high fold to cbet.

He's 3betting ~6% don't know if this is standard or not due to lack of research on stats. But Pokerstove throws out 88+ ATs+ and AKo considering he's OOP i think we can forget about 88-TT and assume JJ as less likely also. So i wouldn't want to be messing around with 4bet bluffs vs him as his range will be quite tight and hands he's probably happy to play for stacks preflop. So i'd only be 4betting a value range of QQ KK AA, and calling his 3bets with JJ and AK.

Since we can assume he's only cbetting when he catches a decent flop top pair or a decent second pair or big draw, i'd probably re-raise all my value hands 2pairs sets etc, no matter how dry the board is as he's more likely to call and he's not gonna be double barreling etc if he's rarely cbetting when he misses.

Anything iv missed? i can't interpret the bottom 2 boxes. Once we have found good adjustments for out IP we can do OOP.

For starters, this villian needs serious help. hes only cbetting when he hits.
Its profitable to Call his raise and bet when he checks, cos he'll fold. (Am i doing this Right ? and ive only looked at first image)

if we could change this thread title to 'how to exploit a standard tag' so that this keeps contained re the villain that rong posted that would be great
@ rong, nice work posting that, i'll look at it later today
here's something similar for dealing with a standard nit
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2117560

some initial thoughts
villain is relatively solid, prob 2p2 or similar, note that this player is not where the bulk of your money is coming from.

sit across or to his left unless there is a good reason to sit on his right
3b his lp opens liberally, and his isos of bad limpers even more liberally until he adjusts
only call an extremely narrow range from ep/mp when he is left to act
consider occasionally flatting KK/AA in lp with him left to act in an obvious squeeze spot

don't auto cbet if he calls you preflop, consider board texture and ranges etc.
filter and see what he does in pots where he is the preflop raiser and checks flop - bet when checked to in this spot is a good default into you develop this read - consider what this means for setmining vs this villain

I was gonna start a thread for it myself with such a title but since it had been started I just ran with it.

Sleepy time for me now, but I'll add to this in the morning. At the risk of exposingy my poor play I'll take a look at all the hands I 3b pre against this villain, called pre against him, and look for some later street play so we can criticise my play against him. Might be useful. That will be later on though when I have time.

I'll also post any hand vs him with more than 50bb won or lost.

Should I say what stakes this guy plays or will that perhaps skew the analysis.

Originally Posted by rong

Should I say what stakes this guy plays or will that perhaps skew the analysis.

you'll find players like this in the 10nl-50nl player pool, so maybe we should simply assume that he's from there (where most of the bc will be) and how to play against this type of player in these games

fwiw, this isn't really the type of villain that you 'exploit' for a whole bunch of money in micro-stakes, he's more likely the player you share the dead money with. Maybe how to play optimally and take advantage of any weaknesses is better than 'exploit' - or maybe they mean the same thing. If we're not careful we;ll have people forgetting where most of the money comes from in these games

he probably 'knows' about standard lines and expects them from you
as an example, if you're HU to the flop on A84tt or Q74tt then you don't have to auto-raise your set cos there aren't many flush draws in his range and he'll barrel 3/4 of turns etc

edit to address question below. tt=two tone=the cards on the board are from two suits only.
e.g. 7s6sAc is a tt board/flop, AcKcQdJd is a tt board

Originally Posted by daven

A84tt or Q74tt

ummmm.... what's the tt for.

I mean, I love me some tt's, but I don't expect to see them on the flop.

Two tone

Villain is yawn pre-flop, looks very nitty and predicatable post-flop. Probably has some clue at to what he is doing.

Pre:

- 3betting a wide range when on our right (preferred) against late position open.

- Stealing very wide

- Not mining, but would take a number of flops in position given how nitty villain is post flop (not doing this against a barrelling TAG however).

Post:

- betting when checked to without betting lead. Cbetting most boards depending on ranges (which we should be able to accurately forecast).

- not floating or taking strong bluff lines when facing action (unlike the tactic for most standard TAGs on the right board).

- Only raising strong value hands on the flop when facing a cbet (??). Being strict with calling down weak made hands.