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    Default how do i get monies in correctly postflop vs Loosepassive fish

    ok so i flop gin on the loose passive fish. obv i won the hand and managed to get the money in however looking at the action and the board texture and how weirdly the hand went down i am wondering what the ideal play would have been versus the standard passive calling stations like we all love em.
    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($5.50)
    Hero (MP) ($5.07)
    CO ($4)
    Button ($5)
    SB ($5)
    BB ($12.50)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, Q
    1 fold, Hero bets $0.17, 3 folds, BB calls $0.12

    Flop: ($0.36) 5, 9, Q (2 players)
    BB bets $0.25, Hero raises $0.70, BB calls $0.45

    Turn: ($1.76) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.05, Hero raises $0.80, BB raises $1.50, Hero calls $0.75

    River: ($4.86) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.05, Hero raises $2.65 (All-In), BB calls $2.60

    Total pot: $10.16
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    ok so as u can see the donky mindonks the turn . at this point i felt it would be appropriate to make a betsize which would make him think i might be on a draw there since the board was pretty wet. I didn't want to look too strong , so when he actually min 4 bets turn lulz , i opted to flat . here's my problem , a ton of cards might freak him out on river , would a shove been more appropriate? the more i think about it the more i feel like i played it badly , luckily the river kindda bricked on an obvious flushdraw and he managed to spazz out AQo there.
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    Don't over think. Bet enough on all streets to have slightly less than a psb by the river. On the turn raise more. 1.2-1.5 prob be best
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Luck View Post
    Don't over think. Bet enough on all streets to have slightly less than a psb by the river. On the turn raise more. 1.2-1.5 prob be best
    yea this.

    It would be most helpful to you if you did a little math (in this thread) to figure out what the smallest raise size is on the turn to still have a pot sized bet left on the river. That way you get used to doing it and can do it quicker when playing.

    Then, pick a raise size that large or larger.
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    I encourage more beginners to post hands they actually won. There's always a chance you could have played a winning hand better.

    Anyways, you've played it alright I'd just suggest looking at raising a tad more on most streets, especially flop and turn. Like the others said, it makes it easier to get it in on the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Luck View Post
    Don't over think. Bet enough on all streets to have slightly less than a psb by the river. On the turn raise more. 1.2-1.5 prob be best
    Agree. Odds are he is chasing. If he re-raises our larger turn raise we can easily get it in on the turn. Obv. villain didn't shut down on the river but a lot will when they miss when they would have got it in on the turn.
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    settecbaslaps TheLongGrind
    <settecba>http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...sh-185217.html
    <settecba>what would be a pot-sized raise after villain donks flop?
    <philly>.86
    <philly>according to ftp
    <philly>cause they add in you calling his bet
    <philly>o wait
    <philly>so add .25 to that?
    <philly>idk i suck at that sort of stuff
    <philly>lol
    <settecba>lol
    <settecba>yeah...thats right
    <settecba>itd be 1.11
    <settecba>now
    <settecba>where does the ".86" come from?
    <philly>your .25
    <philly>plus his .25
    <philly>plus the .36 in the pot
    <settecba>exactly
    <settecba>so...
    <philly>?
    <settecba>what would be a 2/3ps raise after villain donks flop?
    <philly>.82
    <philly>take 2/3rd of .86 and add it to .25?
    <settecba>right
    <settecba>so LongGrind´s raise is actually lower than 2/3pot
    <philly>hahaha ya im not feeling the .70 cent raise either
    <settecba>id say raise something between 2/3-1 potsized bet in that spor
    <settecba>*spot
    <settecba>closer to pot actually since villain is a calling station
    <settecba>another thing
    <settecba>spr is a little over 13
    <philly>yea its a good point
    <philly>when i first saw the hand
    <philly>it was the turn raise that threw me off
    <philly>but the flop raise size is bad as well
    <settecba>so he needs 3 ps bets to get it in
    <settecba>villain donking is good news
    <settecba>but he needs to raise flop properly, and then setup a river shove with his turn bet

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