Hi again! I'm sure this is a STUPID question but I need to ask. I'm practicing counting outs to do my hand odds and doing my pot odds. Now, when articles tell you about OUTS, it's always on the FLOP. Does that mean that you can only count OUTS on the FLOP?

I know that you have more info after the FLOP to count outs since you can see if you have straight, flush... possibilities.

In case you can count OUTS pre-flop, then is this done when someone goes ALL-in and you want to know if you should call or is it also done just to call any raise?

Thanks again for the help!